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#1 Jack Griffin

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 07:13 AM

This "review site" is pretty slanderous to a few brands, as you'll see on the lower right bottom. I sense it's a bit old, and not updated.

Interestingly enough, nowhere, is the person's name. Does anyone know who this is? Not that it matters terribly, but it seems a bit extreme and is potentially damaging.

 

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 09:04 AM

Who is can be done with a whois. Unfortunately this is registered to domains by proxy, so the owner actually went to the length of clouding over their identity by using this third party option. They made the website with this in mind, meaning they knew someone would take offense before they even registered the domain name. Seems like evidence enough that they went through the whole thing with an agenda. The only way of uncovering who it is would be legal action which would require Domains by Proxy to give up the information. Easily done but still a hassle. You can see all public information here.

 

That, and they use GoDaddy, complete with the GoDaddy website template builder. Lame.

 

Top link for vendor is Alandia, hmmm.

 

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 09:31 AM

Never seen the site before, but that's an odd mix of absinthes to avoid.  Especially since they don't give any explanation as to why.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 09:35 AM

Yes Evan, I looked up "who is" also, and saw this.  It is also listed on the accessory sales page http://www.absintheo...servlet/Service

as an address in CT, which I believe may be the USA location for Alandia, as they have their Absinthiana sister site in New England.  It is clearly an active site,

with  © 2014.  Also, the La Bleue Clandestine, sold exclusively through Alandia, is in their preferred list... As well as Alandia being the first vendor listed for all products.

I suspect this is a clue.

 

Politics or not,  this is really not cool, and quoting Gwydion right under the paragraph saying never ever to buy Marteau, Ridge, Lucid, or Obsello, none of which belong in the company of the others mentioned,  is certainly crossing a line.  I just thought I'd mention this, in case nobody else has seen it.

 

"Some absinthe brands simply do not meet the mark. Seven brands you should carefully consider before purchasing are: La Fee, Le Tourment, King Of Spirits, Lucid, Marteau, Obsello and Ridge Absinthe Verte."



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 10:08 AM

Lumping numbers 5 and 7 in with the others would indicate a site you should carefully consider before taking it seriously. :rolleyes: 


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 11:24 AM

Agreed, but people new to it, or who have not tried those brands may be swayed by this. I did a search for "absinthe reviews" on Google, and this page came up as #2.

If I were Gwydion or Joe and Jules, I'd be pretty pissed.  Something ranking so highly despite being so clearly agenda-riddled to us, may not seem that way to someone else.

Considering their phone number and e-mail is there, a friendly howdy from a lawyer might get them to remove those brands from that list, on all their pages. Lucid is mentioned as well. Just because these absinthes are not being marketed to/through these guys, doesn't give them the right to so brazenly sabotage them.



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 01:15 PM

Looks like a poorly-disguised astroturf site by Alandia.  Petty.

 

Edit: actually, no, seeing the comment about being in CT,  it's that anti-semitic bigot that runs Absinthe On The Net, Tony Rodriguez.

 

Just because these absinthes are not being marketed to/through these guys, doesn't give them the right to so brazenly sabotage them.

 

No, Tony just has an ax to grind.  That, and he's an asshole.  In my personal opinion, of course.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 02:14 PM

And you're certainly not alone, on that score, G.

 

I'd long ago forgotten about that asswipe. :poop: 


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 02:21 PM

Sorry to open shit from the past, albeit, unintentionally.  



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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:10 PM

The data for the registrar goes back almost 6 years, if that helps at all.


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 03:21 PM

Sorry to open shit from the past, albeit, unintentionally.  

No apologies necessary, Scott.

 

Rod's just another (gaseous) blast from the past. :cheers: 


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 06:03 PM

Lumping numbers 5 and 7 in with the others would indicate a site you should carefully consider before taking it seriously. :rolleyes: 

 

Agreed, although even including Obsello and Lucid (both a tier below Marteau and Ridge, to be sure) with KoS and LTV indicates indicates that the author is, at best, a fool.

 

Maybe someone should set up an "absinthe review sites to avoid" page...

 

Edit: here's what the site says about FV: "Excellent site for Newbies. Very polite and gracious participants and moderators." Whoo, boy….


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#13 Absomphe

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Posted 04 March 2014 - 06:17 PM

Well, compared to the old FV and the Lounge... :laugh: 


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 08:34 PM

I guess I was thinking of the old FV and the Lounge…has FV mellowed while I've been away?


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Posted 04 March 2014 - 09:20 PM

How can I possibly take that seriously?  Thus far, Vilya remains a labor of love and there she shall remain.  We are sincerely dedicated to making the best absinthe we can and if some dork with a goofy website doesn't like me, I just can't give a rat's ass.  I have far more important things I'd rather do.

 

Hey!  I just discovered something really cool while making batch #80.  Seriously!  :cheers:



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Posted 05 March 2014 - 04:46 AM

…has FV mellowed while I've been away?

It was already pretty mellow by then.

 

I was thinking more of, say, 1999-2005. :wheelchair:


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Posted 05 March 2014 - 05:19 AM

Joe, you remain a great example of healthy perspective.

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Posted 06 March 2014 - 03:14 PM

…has FV mellowed while I've been away?

It was already pretty mellow by then.

 

I was thinking more of, say, 1999-2005. :wheelchair:

 

Fair enough; the FV I remember was never as explosive as the Lounge, but even so, the regulars could be…ungentle...in their treatment of newcomers.


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Posted 07 March 2014 - 04:12 PM

Having done no further research than reading the initial post and subsequent responses on the matters at hand within this thread, my immediate thought is: "Happy to be on this side of the fence...yikes."

 

My immediate second thought is: "I hope Joe shares what he learned about batch #80 because it has to be far more interesting than slander in/from any direction."



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 05:02 PM

The bottle on hand is batch #46... I cannot help but feel I am missing out on something.



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Posted 07 March 2014 - 07:49 PM

I hope Joe shares what he learned about batch #80

Yeah but hes known to tease...

 

No seriously Joe, what is it?


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Posted 08 March 2014 - 05:56 AM

It's probably fairly insignificant to anyone not actually distilling.  Every batch offers new learning opportunities no matter how tiny those opportunities are.  Little things like, "Do I stop heating the coloring distillate at 148f or 152f?  Do I let it rest on the heat or off?  Do I wait 6 hours or 8 or 12 before I do the initial filtering? etc..."  Always trying to get better at what we do, ya know?

 

Batch #46 should be pretty good by know.  It has a little age under it's belt and we were in the process of upgrading our herb sources.  I can't be more specific right now because I'm not near the distillery but I could check later when I get home.

 

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Posted 08 March 2014 - 06:40 AM

What's funny though is that I just picked up that bottle #46 a few months ago (maybe 6). If you are on #80 now - I just wonder how much time has gone by between the two. The place I ordered mine from probably bought a bunch of cases during that time period and hasn't gotten through them all yet... or... you've done about 35 batches in 6 months or so? That sounds crazy-productive.

 

I know very little of this actually matters. I'm just a very curious individual  :shifty:



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Posted 08 March 2014 - 03:50 PM

#46 was bottled 12/27/2012  so it has about 14 months of age rest which is pretty nice.  So, yeah, I guess we've been a little busy for a little distillery. ;)



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Posted 09 March 2014 - 09:41 AM

Evan and I still need a "vacation" where we come sling herbs and lift heavy things for you and Jules while you distill.  :secret2:


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Posted 09 March 2014 - 05:06 PM

We hope to stop by for a quick drink in May.  Let's talk about that!



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Posted 09 March 2014 - 05:35 PM

May?  Anything interesting going on then?


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 02:37 AM

Not much but important enough for me to buy a suit.

 

Hah, heh...me in a suit. :rolleyes:



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Posted 10 March 2014 - 03:46 AM

I loves me a nice suit.

 

Wait...does a clown suit count? :unsure: 


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Posted 10 March 2014 - 10:44 AM

If it doesn't, it should.

 

A birthday suit should count too. :)


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