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Posted 17 January 2014 - 04:45 PM
Edited by L0j1k, 17 January 2014 - 04:48 PM.
Posted 17 January 2014 - 08:13 PM
My guess would be antique picon glasses. Picon in many situations was diluted with seltzer at about a 2:1 ratio. Might also be a liqueur d'anise glass. You wouldn't see an absinthe glass made to fit a 2:1 ratio, as it was historically drank at about the strength of a glass of wine, which would be anywhere between 3:1 - 5:1 depending on the quality.
Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:07 PM
I'm a serious collector of absinthe antiques but I do not by any means profess to be expert. I will be interested to see Scott M. chime in here. But I have several antique absinthe glasses, and have studied pictures of both survivors and catalogs of the era.
I don't doubt those are old, but I do doubt they are for absinthe. As Brian correctly states, 2:1 is not a normal ratio. I have a few glasses which have amazingly misleading appearance in terms of the dose line, meaning that the taper is so extreme that 30ml or about 1 oz. appears to fill the glass nearly halfway. But in each case, with a 3:1 mix the glass still has a respectable headspace. They could easily handle 5:1 without topping out. It never comes close to the rim. I attach a picture of just one example, an Yvonne. This has a meager 20ml dose, I fill it well above the line, where it appears to be almost half-full -- though it is not in reality because of the very narrow lower portion.
Yours have a Est shape but look a bit too wide. I have to believe they were bistro glasses but used for some other liquor than absinthe. They're lovely, however.
Edited by Georges Meliès, 17 January 2014 - 10:25 PM.
Posted 17 January 2014 - 10:13 PM
Here's an 'Oeuf' glass without etched line, but the dose is where the inner taper expands. That's about 25ml, I pour slightly more so it's just above the shoulder. With a 3:1 ratio, which I normally use, the fill reaches the lower edge of the line below the top decorations, with still lots of headspace.
Edited by Georges Meliès, 17 January 2014 - 10:14 PM.
Posted 18 January 2014 - 01:38 AM
I appreciate the input! Thanks so much for including some pictures. I think I should correct myself here to say that the ratio is more than 1:2. It's not as much as my regular, modern creations (which are something like 1:5ish and like you say, with plenty of headroom), but it's closer to 1:3 than 1:2. I know it's very hard to tell, but the dose portion of the glass is very thick, like your example there, and holds about an ounce.
I'll go measure exactly what the ratio is ... Yeah, it's closer to 1:3 than 1:2, so I apologize for the rough estimate earlier. It's not enough I think to justify saying it's approaching a more correct ratio, however. This is exactly why I'm asking.
Thanks for your input!
Posted 18 January 2014 - 01:07 PM
Posted 18 January 2014 - 01:24 PM
Here is an example of the glass I mentioned above, with "Pernod 45" clearly molded into the base. The dose line is also high up, at about the same volume as your glasses. I believe Pernod 45 was released in 1938, 6 years after Pastis was first created.
Edited by Scott M., 18 January 2014 - 01:25 PM.
Posted 19 January 2014 - 11:03 AM
Nice glass, Scott.
Very nice.
Posted 19 January 2014 - 11:40 AM
Posted 19 January 2014 - 05:21 PM
Yes, I agree with Brian and René, they're certainly bistro glasses of some kind, but certainly not absinthe glasses. Marc or Peter would likely know precisely what these were used for, I'd bet. I have seen pastis glasses in this shape with a short stem. This could be what they are for. Some of you have likely seen these, with a screw-on plastic or Bakelite base.
Also, 2:1 is really hot for absinthe... At this ratio, you're likely missing many of the nuances of good absinthe that the distillers work so hard to impart, not to suggest it's wrong, if you like it best this way! There are a couple 45 ABV absinthes that are OK at this low ratio, but man, that's a low ratio for higher ABV absinthes. Nice meeting you!
Well like I've said it depends on a huge variety of factors (if you look at the Duplais Balance in my profile pic, that's pretty clearly a lot more than 1:3), and those factors really come down to which absinthe I'm enjoying. One I can think of off-hand (Lucid) to me tastes disgusting at like 1:5, but tastes just fine at 1:3ish.
Before I go on, I need to say here that I've never been very scientific about the amount I mix. I play it by sight and taste, never measuring exactly how much I add. I tested one of the glasses I mentioned here with Lucid (because of the high dose line I knew I wouldn't want to use one of my finer brands), and it turned out just perfect, with the I suppose nearly 1:3 or 1:2.75 (not 1:2 like I originally mentioned).
Usually I add water until well after the louche. There's a fine line for me which makes an absinthe "delicious" and it's never been a scientific thing, so I had trouble putting it into words. I'm not big into editing things I've already written (i.e. changing history) so I just left it as is, otherwise I'd correct it to 1:3ish.
Thanks for your input! It's much-appreciated.
Posted 23 January 2014 - 04:32 PM
Posted 05 February 2014 - 05:30 AM
I haven't seen any size mentioned in your posts L0j1k. Size does matter... well with absinthe glasses at least.
They were used for aperitif, that's for sure, but not absinthe, that's for sure too, they are from the 20's or 30's from what I see.
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