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#1 Mork

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 01:35 AM

(I was a bit unsure where to put this, Market or General Absinthe questions?)

 

 

Could anyone give me a hint to how much one would usually have to pay for a P. Tarragona from 

around 1936-1938? 
Are they easy or hard to find these days? I see most of the bottles sold seem to date from around 1950-1960's, but it might just be my impression.

 

(As you can probably guess, I've come across a bottle and wonder if the asking price is as good as I think it is:)

 

 

Any tips would be greatly appreciated:)



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 04:09 AM

Probably the best people to ask are those selling such rare products.

http://www.absintheoriginals.com/

Understandably, there aren't a lot of businesses dealing in this market although you can also find the occasional offering from Markus Lion...

http://www.absinthe.de/en/

Both of these businesses are completely trustworthy.  Say, "Goodbye" to your wallet and "Hello" to something fairly extraordinary.



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 04:16 AM

As I recall from previous threads, 1936 was the last year that the Pernod S.A. brand was produced in Tarragona, and that production of Pernod Fils started there shortly thereafter. Which one of these are you looking at? For some collectors, that might make a difference.


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#4 Mork

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 04:44 AM

Joe: Thanks, I'll give it a shot.

 

Alan: I am not quite sure, the front label is gone(which is part of my bargaining the price.)

To me that doesn't matter too much, as I'm buying this one to drink, though very, very slowly:) 
 
My guessing on the age is based on the info I've found on credible sources on the web and on this forum.
Also I own a couple of Tarragona's, one from the 50's and one from 60's. 
 
 
According to this site:
 
-It must be from either 1930-36(couvet) or 1936-38, but as far as I can tell the bottles themselves are
identical so it seems hard to tell? The bottom has quite a deep punt.


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Posted 12 July 2013 - 05:18 AM

Nice find.
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:04 PM

No Pernod in Couvet ( a small and wonderful town in Switzerland) in the 30's. They had started there before going to Pontarlier France. So do not put any expected extra value on your bottle, it may only reference the recipe if you see in on the label. The value of your find ? That depends on how much you are willing to pay for it.

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:15 PM

Mork,

Can you post a pic of the neck seal?
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#8 Mork

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:17 PM

I was referring to this bottle:

 

http://www.vertdabsi...ut-pernodsa.jpg

 

I'm probably buying it at the asking price, but I was a bit curious about what the price usually look like, and if anyone else are selling them these days.

I've been looking for a pre-1940 Tarragona for some time, I've only tasted the 50' and 60' before:)



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:19 PM

(Clarification; the bottle in the previous link is not the one I'm buying, just similar when looking at the bottle without labels).

I'm guessing its the same age as one of the two bottles at the left in this pic:

 

http://www.vertdabsi...-biarritz00.jpg



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:20 PM

I was asking about the bottle you wanted to buy. E one you said was missing the front label.
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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:27 PM

Brian: The link was meant as a reply to Rob's comment, but good point, why didnt I think of posting a pic of the actual bottle:P

 

I couldn't find out how to upload it here, but try this link I just made:

 

http://postimg.org/image/82s4ctal7/



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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:34 PM

It appears as though there are no markings in the neck seal. Is that correct?
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#13 Mork

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Posted 12 July 2013 - 03:43 PM

No, I've seen a closer shot and it does say pernod pretty close to the top, as it does on the pictures in the other links, its just a but unsharp in this photo.
Unfortunately I don't have the closeup here. 



The text on the seal is very unclear though, "soft" in the edges one might say?



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Posted 24 July 2013 - 09:56 AM

Tiny update: I did buy the bottle, and it arrived today in great shape.

The neck seal says "Pernod S.A.", but the letters are almost invisible. The bottle is also taller than the other Tarragona I have from the 50's, and has a deep punt

in the bottom. 
Like I mentioned earlier the front label is missing, is there any other way of guessing wether its a Pernod Fils or a Pernod SA Couvet(pre 1936) or a Pernod Fils?

From what I've read the Pernod Fils bottlings from 36-38 also had the same neckseal saying "Pernod SA", so that doesn't help does it?

 

Compared to the 50's version the bottle is a bit taller, the glass is darker and has more uneven surface/flaws, kind of "waves" in the texture.

The tax seal is similar, but instead of "2" in the pattern at the bottom it says "4", and where the other one has numbers this one says "RENTA ---something -De ma -something"

(parts of the tax-seal is missing)

 

Any info would be appreciated:)




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