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#1 TheLoucheyMonster!

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 03:19 PM

Sure.
 
I don't see anything about stills or distillation equipment.
Makes you wonder about what you are really drinking when you travel
More" tourist absinthe" to be wary of.
 
 
 
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 Picasso Spirits' manufacturing and distribution of wine, fine liqueurs,
and absinthe is a true Belizean business comprised of locally available
resources, yet the business has a Product Mix to satisfy the most
discerning of Patrons and Wholesale clients of fine spirits the
world-over. A number of the products are routinely taken back to the
United States (particularly the absinthe, which is having a resurgence
after being banned in the USA for most of the last 100 years!). Always
historically popular with the French, Italian and Dutch artists (such as
Pablo Picasso,Toulouse-Lautrec,... 'did Vincent Van Gogh really cut his
ear off from absinthe drinking?). Regardless, the trendy and
best-seller "Green Fairy" absinthe, the "Red Devil" absinthe ('made with
local hibiscus flowers), Limoncello (from local lemons off north
Ambergris Caye), Island Cointreau and Island Grand Marnier (from sour
oranges, 'just as the real brands are made in France), Island Sambuca
(with stars of anise from the local Chinese markets), Hot Damn---the
cinnamon liqueur boasting locally grown habanero peppers, Sea grape wine
sangrias,.... and of course Island Kahlua, made with local rums and
coffee. There is more than enough rice here in Belize.... for Sake as
well, of course! Specialty items like Island Amaretto and Peppermint
Schnapps are holiday seasonal favorites to die for!
 

 
fromhttps://www.facebook...reenFairyBelize
http://www.businesse...e-For-Sale.aspx
 
https://www.facebook.../PicassoSpirits
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Update: the brand is now under new management and intends to rebrand. This thread refers to the previous management and should not be construed as evidence of the business strategy for the new owners
 

#2 Bushman

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 05:37 PM

I love that area and Belize in general, they have great deals for US citizens wanting to retire and relocate but after reading the add I have to concur with your concerns.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 05:45 PM

Wow. Really into plagiarizing brand names, eh?


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Posted 24 June 2013 - 08:14 PM

Sure.

 

I don't see anything about stills or distillation equipment.

Makes you wonder about what you are really drinking when you travel

More" tourist absinthe" to be wary of.

 

Looks more like more tourist everything to be wary of. Can't say I know any particulars about Belize. Anyone know if they have any intellectual property laws?


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#5 Joe Legate

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Posted 25 June 2013 - 05:46 PM

That's it!  I'm moving to Belize and starting a new distillery.  Soon, we will be producing Pacifique, Marteau, Jade, Leopold and pre-ban Pernod (and any other absinthe you desire) of any vintage you desire.  Expect our pre-Napoleon Cognacs to be ready in a couple of weeks.  Just send me an email with your rare liquor wishes to: Popcorn_Françoise@wecheatemandhow.com :cheerz:



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Posted 25 June 2013 - 05:56 PM

That's UnBelizeAble! :twitchsmile:
Not sure about their "absinthe" but Belikin beer was pretty darn tasty when I was in Belize a few years ago.
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#7 Brian Robinson

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 05:13 PM

Good news/Bad news.

The good news is, I'm happy to announce that the brand has been bought. The new owners have joined the forums!

The bad news is that they joined basically to threaten us to take down this thread by accusing us of defamation.

Not sure how wise of a business strategy it is to alienate the largest absinthe community in the world when you're trying the relaunch an absinthe, but I guess they must have a plan.

Anywho, this post serves as an update to let the public know that the new ownership intends to rebrand and become profitable.

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#8 Gwydion Stone

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Posted 24 February 2014 - 11:24 PM

The bad news is that they joined basically to threaten us to take down this thread by accusing us of defamation.

 
Well to be fair, they asked nicely first, but then decided to get all tough and threatened to lawyer up when we said "Hey, welcome! We won't be taking down that thread, but why don't you go post in it and let folks know what's up?"
 
Considering they apparently inherited the brand from someone with little knowledge and less sense and who smeared their ignorance all over the interwebs, I'd like to give the new guys a chance to get their hackles back down and maybe have a productive discussion about where they're going with this.


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Posted 25 February 2014 - 04:08 AM

Always happy to give newbies a chance. I (maybe incorrectly) assumed the report that he sent in was the first communique from him. In it, he mentioned that this thread was defamatory. My apologies if that was not the case.
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#10 Evan Camomile

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 09:40 AM

Well in the U.S. at least, they would have to prove malicious intent along with our statements being untrue. Since we commented on the marketing of the brand, that would be hard to do. Their marketing was what it was, and our opinions don't matter in a legal sense. Opinions are not subject to factual analysis, not even in a courtroom. Since we are commenting on their marketing our comments are also not untrue. They have zero ground.

 

Sticking the word "Island" in front of brand names is not enough for them to legally distance themselves. Maybe we should ask Group Remy Cointreau and Pernod Ricard what they think of their IP being used like this? I doubt this small distillery has purchased licensing from either company, let alone both.

 

Honestly there's no need for us to lawyer up when big brands have General Counsel on staff. If these new owners get nasty let's just tip off GRC and PR.


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#11 Joe Legate

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Posted 25 February 2014 - 04:42 PM

I don't think it will be an issue.  I think they understand we were bashing the previous owners.  Hell, if they're dedicated to making real, authentic absinthe, I know everyone here would enthusiastically applaud their efforts.  I dunno.  Maybe it was a cultural thing.  They felt slighted and couldn't poke us in the nose. ;)



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Posted 26 February 2014 - 01:46 AM

Evan Camomile, on 25 Feb 2014 - 17:40, said:

Sticking the word "Island" in front of brand names is not enough for them to legally distance themselves. Maybe we should ask Group Remy Cointreau and Pernod Ricard what they think of their IP being used like this? I doubt this small distillery has purchased licensing from either company, let alone both.
 


On their new website, they no longer use the Cointreau and Kahlua suffixes.


Edited by Alan Moss, 26 February 2014 - 01:47 AM.

www.laclandestine.com: Hand-crafted in the birthplace of absinthe.

#13 Evan Camomile

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Posted 26 February 2014 - 09:26 PM

Good, then all clear.


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