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#1 Marc

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 04:35 AM

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#2 OMG_Bill

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 05:03 AM

Sickening!
Some folks may cringe each time I use the term "Booze" regarding these high quality drinks.
I mean no offense. There are bottles of extraordinary booze out there. I've tasted a few. Relax.

#3 Absomphe

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 05:20 AM

Outrageous and unconscionable.

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#4 Songcatcher

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 05:27 AM

What a cold blooded way to handle a business transaction

Edited by Songcatcher, 15 March 2012 - 05:29 AM.

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#5 baubel

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:08 AM

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#6 Jay

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 09:40 AM

I'm not convinced that this story isn't a hoax, or at least very inaccurate with the details. For one thing, not only would it be more reasonable to have the violin returned to the seller for a refund, but it definitely be more prudent from a legal perspective.

If the story is true as presented, then the seller has absolutely fantastic grounds for a significant lawsuit against Paypal, as he lost both the money from the sale AND his original item.

If through some combination of stupidity and poor research Paypal actually does have policies in place that allow for this, then watch out for the influx of folks buying a $5000 violin they can pay for with Paypal, then claim is a fake while they smash a $50 violin they bought locally, send the pictures to Paypal, and keep their free antique.

#7 OMG_Bill

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:07 AM

Aw c'mon Jay, play along with the rest of us. ;) :cheers:
Some folks may cringe each time I use the term "Booze" regarding these high quality drinks.
I mean no offense. There are bottles of extraordinary booze out there. I've tasted a few. Relax.

#8 Hedonmonkey

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:11 AM

I have always refused to use paypal.....now I know why.

I'd be ready to hop a flight and beat the responsible party into the ground...but I have issues with rare/precious objects being mindlessly destoyed. Pisses me off to no end.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:21 AM

Heartbreaking. I'm having a hard time understanding how someone who would want a $2500 antique violin would be willing able to smash one.

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#10 Marc

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 10:59 AM

I'm not convinced that this story isn't a hoax

Well, that's what I thought at first, but by pure coincidence Paypal changed its terms on January 24th 2012. The violin story was published on January 3rd 2012.

Here is what has changed since:

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#11 TheLoucheyMonster!

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:35 AM

Enough news sites like CBS, NPR, et.
posted the story,without retractions, so I think is most likely true.

Edited by TheLoucheyMonster!, 15 March 2012 - 03:13 PM.


#12 Jay

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:02 PM

Perhaps all of you are correct and this is a genuine occurrence (except for you Bill - you're just willfully intent on having fun :laugh: ).

That change to the Paypal policy is certainly telling, and to my mind it's actually worse than the original stance, because this one firmly states that "it will be destroyed" if deemed to be a counterfeit.

No lawyer am I, but I wonder how this can be legal, considering that this process does not involve third-party arbitration besides Paypal itself, which is neither qualified (to my mind) to determine authenticity of disputed items, nor is it even examining anything except for photographs, which can very easily be altered by a fourth-grader with Photoshop. This all seems like a recipe for not only heart-breaking stories, but for fraud on a massive scale.

There must have been many similar transactions involving claims of counterfeiting (or a couple of big ones) that led Paypal down this road at all. I can only imagine.

#13 Père Ubu

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 02:47 PM

paypal was founded by people that now own a rockethip company and a exotic electric car company. Just to put their massive egos into perspective.

#14 OMG_Bill

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 04:16 PM

Massive ego's I can do without. There are plenty to go around.

Read the fine print........all 62 pages of legalese. No thanks.
Some folks may cringe each time I use the term "Booze" regarding these high quality drinks.
I mean no offense. There are bottles of extraordinary booze out there. I've tasted a few. Relax.

#15 Absomphe

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 04:20 PM

a rockethip company


Didn't Elvis form the first one of those? :tongue:

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 07:02 PM

Paypal is absolutely ridiculous. My mom had a problem with a customer who decided to dispute $40 worth of sewing materials, claiming they never showed up...two days after placing her order when she lived in Europe. Paypal instantly froze my mom's account, which held a few hundred dollars of money we used for things like...yanno, food and stuff. It was stuck like that for a few weeks, and she wasn't able to fill orders during that time since the money being paid for product was all getting sent to the frozen account. :thumbdown:
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