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#1 Phoney

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 06:04 PM

There's a popular legend in my country about most modern absinthes 'being made of mugwort (A. vulgaris) instead of grand wormwood because it contains almost no thujone'. I know it's all nonsense, but it's so widespread that even local importers print mugwort as the main ingredient on any imported beverage labeled as absinthe.

I was wondering if mugwort-based brands ever existed, or it was completely made up by some journalists. Once in an interview, a Spanish shopkeeper mentioned that there was such a brand, but I've found no other trace of it (except for mugwort is often used in pastis).

#2 baubel

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 06:24 PM

I've heard of mugwort gum and candy being popular in Japan. That's about all I know in terms of mugwort though.

An absinthe made from a mugwort metheglin base, or beer bittered with mugwort/wormwood could be interesting. I doubt that would ever get made though.

A little technological fix to a spiritual problem.


#3 Phoney

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 07:51 PM

That would be one sophisticated absinthe, provided any taste from the base makes it through:) (I'm into making a good metheglin sometime, by the way.)

On second thought, this mugwort-thing may have aroused only because mostly these 2 species (A. absinthium & A. vulgaris) are known here as wormwood (called 'white wormwood' and 'black wormwood', respectively) and perhaps they were thought to be interchangeable.

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 07:54 PM

I know it's all nonsense,

Exactly right. We harvest a few hundred pounds of Grand Wormwood every year...not Mugwort. But I understand. It is amazing what people are willing to believe.

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Posted 15 June 2011 - 08:22 PM

I have seen confusion between wormwood and mugwort for interpretations of purl

#6 Père Ubu

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 04:35 AM

Mugwort was used during the ban. No more ban. No need. Back to grand wormwood.
Unless you have a green eyed boxer. Then mugwort is still important.

#7 Phoney

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 07:30 AM

Hm thanks, I think that's what I was looking for. Do you know by chance what kind of beverages these were, or what they were labeled as?

I know it's not much important today, but it's the only misconception known to me that I couldn't solve (and as I mentioned, it has some educational significance:)

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Posted 16 June 2011 - 07:34 AM

Herbsaint, but talk to the green eyed imp. He is kinda into it.

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Posted 17 June 2011 - 03:39 AM

Some old USA brands of Absinthe substitutes from the 1930s-1940s :


Legendre Herbsaint

L.E. Jung & Wulff "Milky-Way"

Solari's / Jung & Wulff "Greenopal"

Mohawk "Abson"

Debouchett "Alstina"

Lyon's "Jadine"

Good luck finding some of these...

There are more, but I don't feel like typing at this hour.

Edited by thegreenimp, 17 June 2011 - 03:44 AM.

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#10 Phoney

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Posted 19 June 2011 - 01:30 AM

Thank you very much! I've been looking for this information for a year:)


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