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#181 OMG_Bill

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 06:04 PM

Someone on that bottling team surprised me

I caught that right away, almost instantly. I was more pleased than surprised.

There is something about peace in the workplace that makes me F'n smile. And it did!

:cheers:
Some folks may cringe each time I use the term "Booze" regarding these high quality drinks.
I mean no offense. There are bottles of extraordinary booze out there. I've tasted a few. Relax.

#182 Absomphe

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 06:20 PM

Indeed. :thumbup:

Yes, I'm Krinkles the Clown on an absinthe a beer bender.

You got a problem with that?


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Posted 07 May 2012 - 06:25 PM

It put me in a good mood.

Been awhile. I sort of like it. I will be in a good mood again in about 20 days. Hide and F'n watch. HA!

I'm all giddy about it. Let's call it my "due date". :cheers:
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#184 Absomphe

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 06:38 PM

Hide and F'n watch.


This clown's an expert in that department. :laugh: :cheers:

Yes, I'm Krinkles the Clown on an absinthe a beer bender.

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 06:52 PM

Enlighten me.
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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:16 PM

Well, back when the earth was just starting to cool, Absomphe came from the sea. From there he evolved into a specialist of the booze and antiques and the antique booze movement.

He knows things as he was there when things were cooling and other forms of life began to emerge.

Some shared the same interests. Some tread a different trail.

He witnessed lightning and saw it burst into flame on the ground and then there was copper.

And soon a still was born. And from said still there dripped a delightful elixer. This was even before mead arrived on the scene.

Some people think mead was the first booze but Absomphe was there and has pictures.

It happened. It really did.

I promise.

And I'm 16 years old.

Again.

Release the Marteau!!
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#187 baubel

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Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:22 PM

Some people think mead was the first booze but Absomphe was there and has pictures.
And I'm 16 years old.


Gold, silver and copper :wheelchair: 's for everyone. :thumbup:

A little technological fix to a spiritual problem.


#188 Père Ubu

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:12 AM

Looks like some folks did double duty this last weekend.

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:34 AM

Double Duty Daily. Triple D!

Not Diners, Drive-ins and Dives. :laugh:
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#190 Absomphe

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 03:54 AM

Enlighten me.


What Bill said! :laugh:

Yes, I'm Krinkles the Clown on an absinthe a beer bender.

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#191 Père Ubu

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 04:01 AM

Where there any canned folks there?

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 04:05 AM

Good story Bill. ;)
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Posted 08 May 2012 - 05:12 AM

Where there any canned folks there?


You'd have to ask the guy who used to wear the white hat. :laugh:

Edited by Absomphe, 08 May 2012 - 04:48 PM.

Yes, I'm Krinkles the Clown on an absinthe a beer bender.

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#194 OMG_Bill

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Posted 08 May 2012 - 11:00 AM

No dolphins in our tuna.....no sireee Bob. :twitchsmile:
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I mean no offense. There are bottles of extraordinary booze out there. I've tasted a few. Relax.

#195 Gwydion Stone

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 07:52 AM

Someone on that bottling team surprised me, but in a really good way. ;)

I know, right? Who'd have ever thought Mike would cut his hair??

Congrats, Gwydion! How would you say this batch compares to the first?

This one is more recent? :poke: I did a side-by-side taste with this batch and the 2009 bottling this morning (tough job, but someone has to do it) and I was surprised at how similar they were. I expect once the still shock wears off in another week or so, it'll be hard to tell them apart.

Good to know! In my experience a producer's second round often differs from the first, that's why I asked.

This bottling is actually my fourth and fifth commercial runs in the US.

It's common for every run to have at least slight differences, that's just a fact of the artisanal process and one reason that many producers use some sort of solera method.

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#196 Ambear

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:04 AM

I'm looking forward to killing off the bottle I've been hanging on to and getting a new one. :cheers:
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:40 AM

It's common for every run to have at least slight differences, that's just a fact of the artisanal process and one reason that many producers use some sort of solera method.


Would this allow a producer to slap on an label, "Aged 50 Years", even though only a tiny fraction on the contents were that old?

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 12:00 PM

Typically the "12 years" or whatever is the minimum number of aging of the spirits, where some parts may be older.
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 12:10 PM

Correct. On spirits where age statements are allowed (absinthe isn't one of them) the age must be stated as the youngest fraction in the mix, or as a percentage of ages. From the TTB Beverage Alcohol Manual:

DEFINITION OF “AGE”
Age is the period during which, after distillation and before bottling, distilled spirits have been stored in oak containers. For bourbon, rye, wheat, malt or rye malt whiskies and straight whiskies, other than straight corn whisky (which must be stored in used or uncharred new oak containers), the oak container must be a charred new oak container.

FORMAT
For all distilled spirits except Whiskies (other than corn whisky and light whisky) produced in the U.S. and
stored in reused oak containers and Types of whiskies containing neutral spirits (e.g., blended whisky, spirit
whisky, etc.) the statement of age (whether required or optional) must appear as:

“____ YEARS OLD”
(Fill in blank with specific age or age of youngest distilled spirits in blend)
OR
“AGED ____ YEARS”
(Fill in blank with specific age or age of youngest distilled spirits in blend)
OR may appear as a statement of age and percentage:
“____% _______ ____ YEARS OLD”
OR
“____% _______ AGED ____ YEARS”

(This option applies to mixtures or blends, e.g., a mixture or blend of two or more rums of different ages. Fill in first blank with the percent of the finished product on a proof gallon basis contributed by each listed distilled spirits [listed percentages must total 100%]; the second blank with the class/type of each distilled spirits; the third blank with the specific age of each distilled spirits)

Example: Three rums of different ages are blended. Although a statement of age is not required, the bottler elects to label the rum with an age statement that discloses the age of each rum in the blend:

“25% RUM 4 YEARS OLD
35% RUM 5 YEARS OLD
40% RUM 6 YEARS OLD”.


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#200 Père Ubu

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 01:32 PM

Would a grape based absinthe techincally also be a brandy? Seems that base changes a bit more with age. The herbs sure seem to take to aging, although I'm starting to think that original herb quality is a HUGE factor some folks overlook.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 06:48 PM

So would CC be getting this i wonder. If not, where is the best place to order with shipping to the sunshine state?
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 07:01 PM

Typically the "12 years" or whatever is the minimum number of aging of the spirits, where some parts may be older.


Correct. On spirits where age statements are allowed (absinthe isn't one of them) the age must be stated as the youngest fraction in the mix, or as a percentage of ages. From the TTB Beverage Alcohol Manual:


And while all the above is true, it applies only to the blending of spirits of various ages that were always held in their own separate storage by age.

The actual correct age statement for a solera (legally) would be 0 or 1 year, depending on when the product was bottled after the most recent contribution to the solera. When it comes to a solera, a statement of age is never applicable because it is an ongoing process, and each year's contribution is never exactly the same as another (in volume). The best a producer using this method can do is identify the age of the solera (in other words, this solera contains 15 years of vintages, or production).
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Posted 09 May 2012 - 07:09 PM

So would CC be getting this i wonder. If not, where is the best place to order with shipping to the sunshine state?

I wouldn't presume to speak for Julie, but I hope so. She'd have to get it from my NY distributor. It will be available at DUNY also.

Would a grape based absinthe techincally also be a brandy?

I suppose that depends on what you mean by "technically", but certainly not according to any legal definition. The grape spirits I use are distilled to a much higher proof than brandy and aren't aged in oak. They're the grape equivalent of grain neutral spirits.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:38 AM

Thanks.
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Posted 10 May 2012 - 09:33 AM

Welcome, you are.

It will available be at DUNY also.

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 10:31 AM

Would a grape based absinthe techincally also be a brandy?

I suppose that depends on what you mean by "technically", but certainly not according to any legal definition. The grape spirits I use are distilled to a much higher proof than brandy and aren't aged in oak. They're the grape equivalent of grain neutral spirits.

Thanks for this question AND answer. I was also wondering the same thing. Grain-based, grape-based, brandy-based... Trying to sort it all out.
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#207 Père Ubu

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:19 AM

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Marteau, tasty it is. Very tasty, yes!

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 02:54 PM

I like Pete's big injection scene.

That's the thujone he's injecting there.

Just a side note that I went through considerable time and effort to get my "Master of Thujone" certificate (from TBI*). I hope the results will be much appreciated by all. :arrr:





























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Posted 10 May 2012 - 03:29 PM

Thanks for this question AND answer. I was also wondering the same thing. Grain-based, grape-based, brandy-based... Trying to sort it all out.

It's all just neutral spirits for the most part, the difference is only in the commodity that they were made from. The most common are grapes, grain (almost always 100% corn), potatoes, beets, and sugar cane. There can be slight differences in taste, aroma and finish, but they're not readily apparent.

It's meant for industry guidance, but I recommend the TTB Beverage Alcohol Manual to anyone who's interested in labeling language and liquor laws.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 09:35 AM

I have to ask if it is possible to visit the distillery and buy a bottle directly, and perhaps have a taste?

Is the distillery open on Saturdays? My mom is in seattle at this very moment and is returning tomorrow, so Mr. Stone, please forgive my redundancy ;)

I am very much looking forward to trying Marteau :thumbup:

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