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This one is a bit... Hum special.

 

Since it's not a model referenced in Marie Claude DELAHAYE's book, and because of its make, there is still much debate on its authenticity, but to me it's definitely genuine, a "tailor made" spoon for a bourgeois family (which would explain the R at the hand of the handle)

 

I'll ask for more advices among the French specialists as soon as possible, but if it really happens that I am right, well, I will have found a real treasure. In the other case... Well, sometimes you have to take risks (take for example that gold plated spoon I have... :p )

 

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Hi Clément, I saw that one when it was for sale, and thought the same things. Hard to imagine someone faking this, it looks old for certain, and seems to have design elements of Les Grillagees and the scallop shell element of Les Grilles. It's a big world out there, and we know silversmiths of the era were custom making spoons for families. Since many fakes have lead content, doing a wipe-style lead test on this (the kits for this are cheap) will eliminate one common sign of fakery.

 

The scallop shell is a clue, as it was a design element on grilles 35-37, and the ornamental square at the end with the downward bent wire clearly looks like a glass-rest to me. Also, the shape and size of the rectangle looks very much like the sugar of the era, yes? Much like the sugar recess in the Terminus brouilleurs.

 

I of course know much less about these things than many, but that's what my gut tells me. If it is genuine, there will always be people who don't WANT it to be, because they don't have it! :biggrin:

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I like it.

 

The shell doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the spoon but that's just my opinion and not meant to be a slam.

 

The simplicity of the box shape, the twisted handle and the "R" on the end lend tasty touches.

 

Pretty nice Clement. Good or bad, I would enjoy that spoon myself.

 

Cheers!

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@Scott :

True there are different things that remind other designs

- from "les longues" #2 (Marc's collection)

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the "box shape"

- from scallop grille , the scallop shape

- from Grille 35 the twisted wire

 

And indeed, the proportions are fine, it rests perfectly on a glass, holds a sugar perfectly.

 

I of course know much less about these things than many, but that's what my gut tells me. If it is genuine, there will always be people who don't WANT it to be, because they don't have it!

Haha, true indeed :)

 

@Bill

The shell doesn't seem to fit with the rest of the spoon

Nothing fits : the shell and the decoration over the glass rest are over-elegant compared to the "wire and box" overall shape. It's very "baroque" (from barroco "rough or imperfect pearl").

 

But overall ? The scallop makes a comfortable thumb rest when you handle it, the box shape with small holes has always been my favorite shape when it comes to pouring... I think that if it's genuine, there is attention to the details in a whole differnt way : it's very practical.

 

I do like it very much too actually, and not only because it may be a rare find :)

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I thought I'd a share this lovely and very rare antique silver grille. It is the only known example of a grille that is etched with the name of a cafe. Sadly, this found its way to me after my book was published. Grilles are really wonderful to use, and look so pretty sitting on a glass!

 

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Has a World's Fair feel to it. I loved watching the 3D fotos my great grandpa took at that event. we still got some surviving glasses he bought then. I need to look at them again if some might be absinthe glasses. Unless the hoity toity snobbed the green fairy.

 

I'm going senile. I Googled 'baccarat absinthe' and Google told me I had already posted about here in the Gadgets & Gizmos. :paperbag3:

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From the workbench of Kirk Burkett, the Artemisia spoon. A piece of fine art, to be certain. I thought the wormwood theme merited Sauvage in the background, and in the glass.

 

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From the workbench of Kirk Burkett, the Artemisia spoon. A piece of fine art, to be certain. I thought the wormwood theme merited Sauvage in the background, and in the glass.

 

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Makes me wish I used sugar.

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This is a re-post of something I shared at the Musee forum, where many are into antiques. I thought it was good info to share here as well.

 

I was on Ebay USA last week, and they had a couple late 1800s flatware chests on auction. These are typically very different than modern chests, where the spoons would wedge between blocks, often in small gaps that are not wide enough for many absinthe spoons.

Most of these old ones however, have notches that are oriented lengthwise, rather than vertical. I found this lovely Pennsylvania made chest circa 1880-1907 (in 1908, the maker moved to a new city than stated on the label) for $50. It is heavy, solid mahogany and brass. I needed to do a minor fabric repair here and there, but it's a beautiful way to keep the spoons safe, and easy to reach for when I want to use them. It's also nice, that though it's from across the pond from France, the age is correct for absinthe use. Keep your eyes open for these old chests, as it's a wonderful way to honor your spoons! These often have square areas for other items, perfect for grilles and brouilleurs! The top is deep enough to easily hold a glass brouilleur without touching when closed.

 

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That's a beautiful flatware box, Scott. I was actually considering buying one of those myself last month, but I decided that I wouldn't be completely happy with it because I wouldn't be able to glance over in my laziness and see my collection :laf:

 

Anyway, I bought an antique curio box made in Holland (it has a stamp to that effect) that seems like it might be circa 1930, though the person I purchased it from thought it was a bit older around 1900. I'll confess I have no idea about that, but either way, I love it (especially the beading), and my vintage spoons look wonderful inside of it (if I do say so myself).

 

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Indeed Jay! In fact, a couple of those look like they used to live here at my place! That is a great showcase for certain.

 

I had mine in a similar showcase, and loved seeing them, but they were a pain to use in that damned box, pinned in place and such. I decided for me, that using them was better than looking at them. I can always

put 'em back in the showcase next time Spiro Agnew or the Three Musketeers come over for a glass.

Don't even bother trying to figure out what that means....I don't even know. :blink:

I hope we can hook up for a drink or two one of these days!

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Those are two fine boxes, gents!

And that's also what WE said.

Fixed. (By some gents who are anything but).

Indeed Jay! In fact, a couple of those look like they used to live here at my place!

Four, in fact. They still hold a special place in my :heart:

I had mine in a similar showcase, and loved seeing them, but they were a pain to use in that damned box, pinned in place and such.

Ah right, it does appear that the box is mounted on the wall, but in fact it's laid out on a chest of drawers for the pic, so no pins are required. In truth, I haven't found the best spot for it just yet, though, so you may have me trumped after all.

I decided for me, that using them was better than looking at them. I can always

put 'em back in the showcase next time Spiro Agnew or the Three Musketeers come over for a glass.

Don't even bother trying to figure out what that means....I don't even know. :blink:

Something tells me you've recently swirled one of your own spoons in a freshly prepared (third or fourth) glass of absinthe. Cheers to that, for I am not a crook, Dumas. :cheers:

I hope we can hook up for a drink or two one of these days!

I heartily second that emotion! :thumbup:

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I don't do spoons... but I was looking at Jay's box, and reading Scott's comment about pinning them in place.

So, here's a (possibly stupid) question.

Are the spoons magnetic?

If so, couldn't you mount a magnet under the cloth so the spoons would pop off and on easily enough to use at your whim?

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