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#121 Joe Legate

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 08:11 AM

Nice ink, Dakini! :cheers:

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 08:24 AM

That was indeed a very nice write up. :thumbup:

I'm excited for you and anxiously await my first bottles.

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 08:43 AM

With all these tales of red tape that you distillers have to go through, I'm reminded of Brazil.

We're waiting as fast as we can with you DP!
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#124 leopold

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 09:02 AM

Wow. I wish my Senator would've helped me with permits over a decade ago! That's great you actually got a response.

Hang in there!

#125 Gwydion Stone

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 09:04 AM

Congrats on the press, DP. :cheers:

... the stuff about absinthe by Christmas is unlikely now. Sorry. I'm waiting as fast as I can.

I know what that's like. Here's hoping they get the lead out.

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 09:21 AM

I have crossed fingers growing in Petri dishes specially for you, and solar powered prayer wheels spinning in the sunlight. I hope that helps. :laugh:
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#127 Mat B.

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Posted 24 November 2008 - 10:34 AM

...solar powered prayer wheels spinning in the sunlight...

Arenít those the things with mirrors on them that attract birds for capture?? Seriously- DP Iím all the rage about your good ink! Iím thinking great thoughts and sending them your way.
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 10:34 AM

Glad you got some semi-promising replies. Cheers to community newspapers!
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Posted 24 November 2008 - 12:08 PM

Yay!
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#130 dakini_painter

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 10:10 AM

Da-da-bump!

Today I received forumula approval for my absinthes!

Unfortunately, I have to say something to the effect of "artificially colored" even though all the color comes from the coloring herbs, which doesn't seem very artificial to me. I think it has something to do with FDA regulations regarding claims of "all natural". But it does say the label has to indicate the use of "coloring herbs".

I guess it is artificial that I put herbs in alcohol to change the color of the alcohol. That really isn't natural.

Maybe if I'd described my process as post-distillation flavoring, and the color was simply a side effect of that process, maybe I would have had something nicer to say on the label. But I'm tired of fighting bureaucracy. So, onward absinthe drinkers and distillers! Onward!

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#131 Ken Hallenius

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 10:15 AM

Congratulations! Now on to full-scale production, eh?

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#132 dakini_painter

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 10:18 AM

Um, no. As I still have no distillery permit from the state of NY. I was not on the January meeting agenda. February? I can only hope.

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#133 Bluewolf Pete

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 10:26 AM

Congratulations!!!! One big hurdle cleared.

Here's to rapid progress with the rest of it.

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#134 OMG_Bill

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 10:29 AM

Artificially colored...........if it doesn't specify, perhaps one drop of anything per run.

I honestly get weary just reading about your setbacks and couldn't imagine myself going through so much stuff. Your determination is amazing.

Another hurdle jumped and a few to go. Your doing great DP! :thumbup:

I know I'm not the only one anxious to try your product. *smile*
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Posted 09 January 2009 - 10:34 AM

What Bill said times infinity plus one! :laugh:
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#136 Brian Robinson

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 12:21 PM

Congrats! One more hurdle down!

Definitely odd about the artifical coloring rule. Guvvies are such cornholes. :pirate:
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#137 Zman (Marc Bernhard)

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 12:39 PM

Good going. I can really understand what you are going through. :cheers:

If you don't like anise at all, you're not likely to care for any decent absinthe, as absinthe is an anise flavored drink. It's kind of like asking if there are any good beers that don't taste like hops or malt.----Hiram

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 12:48 PM

Things are getting better every day. Leopold Bros. just got here, Marteau pre-ordered, Vieux Carre to arrive in my neck of the woods next week and Pacifique and Dakini's absinthe right around the corner.

Good for my palate... bad for my wallet.
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Posted 09 January 2009 - 12:48 PM

huzzah!

Keep up the fight!
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Posted 09 January 2009 - 12:51 PM

DP: Push back. PMing you.

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 01:44 PM

Fantastic news Dakini! Let me add my voice to your chorus of supporters! :cheers:
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#142 Trid

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 03:21 PM

Do you even have to mention coloring? It would seem that if you don't mention coloring on the label that you won't have to specify natural, artificial, herbal, or otherwise.

It seems so ridiculously arbitrary at times, no?
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#143 dakini_painter

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Posted 09 January 2009 - 06:36 PM

Re: ridiculously arbitrary: yes!

Since there is no TTB class and type for absinthe, it falls in the wonderful Distilled Spirits Specialty category. That invokes a bunch of rules about describing the product. It makes my head hurt just thinking about it, so I won't describe it.

But I do know putting herbs in the alcohol, tain't artificial!

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Distiller and Proprietor, Delaware Phoenix Distillery, Walton, NY. DSP-NY-15019. www.delawarephoenix.com


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Posted 10 January 2009 - 06:25 PM

i was explaining the "using herbs = artificial" deal to my wife who then proceeded to do what I did when I first heard it:

tilt head, look confused, mutter "wha???" followed with a "how, I mean, you know, they're herbs, I...huh, wow", this ended with a headache.

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Posted 11 January 2009 - 02:20 AM

Amen! Keep on keepin' on!!!
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#146 cowbwoy

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 02:36 PM

Once again, YAY!
Gren mwe fret!

#147 dakini_painter

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Posted 12 January 2009 - 04:59 PM

At Hiram's suggestion I checked out the Statement of Composition of other already approved absinthes on the US market.

Not a single one says "artificially colored", though La Fee lists it's use of caramel and two FD&C colors on the back label, and the Red and green Stromu (Djabel and Green Fairy respectively) state "alcohol with herbs, natural flavor, certified colors and FD&C Yellow #5".

It's really interesting to see all the different descriptions for all the products, even the ones that are naturally colored. "with natural flavors added" seems common. Some actually get to say "infused/colored/flavored with herbs".

Gee, looks like I have another windmill to tilt at. Isn't that right, Sancho? :twitchsmile:

Edited by dakini_painter, 12 January 2009 - 05:03 PM.

"Good is the only investment that never fails." Thoreau.
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Distiller and Proprietor, Delaware Phoenix Distillery, Walton, NY. DSP-NY-15019. www.delawarephoenix.com


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Posted 12 January 2009 - 06:38 PM

the Lord's Work.


lest we forget.
What part of Klaatu Barada Nikto don't you understand?


...because shoddy absinthes will be flavored with the lubricator of take the lead anise.

#149 dakini_painter

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Posted 13 January 2009 - 04:54 PM

Si, amigo. :cheers:

"Good is the only investment that never fails." Thoreau.
"Don't you push me baby cause I'm holdin' low / and you know I'm only in it for the gold" Grateful Dead
Distiller and Proprietor, Delaware Phoenix Distillery, Walton, NY. DSP-NY-15019. www.delawarephoenix.com


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Posted 13 January 2009 - 06:47 PM

Si, amigo. :cheers:


Was it your formula reviewer or your COLA reviewer who wanted the "artificially colored" BS?

If the latter, I've had three different COLA reviewers in the last few months, each of whom have disapproved various bits of our labels that the other reviewers had no issue with. It seems to be a crapshoot. If you bite the bullet and get your label approved with that line, you might want to submit a redesign in a few months just to see what gets by.

But you're getting close! I'm looking forward to asking my biz partner to pick up some next time he's in up north.

Best,
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Edited by Wolfish, 13 January 2009 - 06:53 PM.

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