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My First Absinthe Experience & A Few Questions...

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I'm new to the whole Absinthe scene, so when I bought a bottle I had no idea what to expect...

 

It's my usual Friday after work, head to BevMo (local store) for beer tasting. Well on my way to the back of the store, I hear the manager and a customer discussing absinthe, which prior to this day I have never even heard of it. I'm drawn to the discussion but stand quietly near the tequila, so I don't appear to be eavesdropping. I heard the manager recommend 'Le Tourment Vert Absinthe' saying its not as strong, but that it was the better tasting of the ones available. So, I pick up a bottle and take it over to my friends for Poker. I start off mixing it with pineapple juice and 7up (per the lucid info), later in the night we all were taking shots. Between 3 of us, we polished off 75% of the bottle. As the night goes on, we're not tired a bit, 2:30am rolls around and we're ready to take a cab back to my place for pool and ping pong. We'll that was a great idea to everyone but his sleeping wife, whom we woke up...I take that ride alone, and go to sleep. I did have a different type of sleep that night and I didn't have any hangover the following morning. At this time i realized I was drinking something totally different, something I'm completely drawn to now. The research begins...

 

Google being my friend, I search for words like "preban" "grande wormwood" "thujone." I figure the stuff in the US just isn't going to give me the true feeling of Absinthe. Well, I come up with names like,"Absinthe King of Spirits Gold" and so on. Finally I decide Googling ranked websites aren't the way to go, and I need to get real feedback from a community. My next search gets me here. Over the past 2 days I've learned a little overall, but ALOT from what I knew.

 

My questions to the guru's:

-Is thujone an important ingredient to have in absinthe? If so, what do you recommend?

 

- Is taking shots completely worthless? The more I read I could see the importance of using the spoon with a sugar cube and cold water. I imagine that was dumb, but I'm happy I made that mistake with 'Le Tourment Vert '

 

- Which of the following would you recommend: (If possible the top few, the store website shows more than I see actually on the shelf)

'La Muse Verte Absinthe

St. George Absinthe Verte

Kübler Absinthe

Pernod Absinthe

Lucid Absinthe Superieure

Mata Hari Absinthe

Obsello Absinthe

Tourment Vert Absinthe

eopold Bros. Absinthe Verte

 

Thanks everyone and I apologize if I sound like I have no idea what I'm talking about....but I don't!

Edited by calistyle

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Don't bother inserting HTML into your post, it doesn't do anything but make it look like crap.

 

I'd recommend reading the F-A-Q. Then look at some reviews. LTV isn't absinthe. Neither is KOSG.

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:g: Start over, go get a bottle of Kübler, sip and do more reading of the WS faqs & absinthe reviews,

At least you have definitely arrived at the proper place for your ongoing education,calistyle! :cheers:

and plz no more LTV :no2:

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What they all said. All of the information you're looking for regarding thujone and best tips for buying are on the main page. Page 6 of 14 in the FAQ's is all about thujone.

 

You can also visit thujone.info for all of the scientific papers on the subject.

 

And don't be disappointed when you find out that the 'effect' of absinthe isn't much more than what you'd get if you had a couple Tuaca Bombs. :twitchsmile:

 

From the list you have there, Obsello, Leopold and Kübler are your best bets.

 

Welcome! :cheers:

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Greetings!

 

About taking shots...absinthe having such an high ABV I would not encourage it not only because it would be a waste of an expensive and enjoyable drinking experience, but the chances of contracting oral cancer are greatly (how scientific) increased.

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Some things not on your list are Marteau from Integrity Spirits in Portand, OR and Sirene from North Shore Distillery in Chicago, IL. Worth trying.

 

Lucid and Kübler seem to be the most readily available. Don't know about the Mata Hari (new), La Muse. St George is very polarizing, people either like it or not.

 

Thanks so much for editing your post. I really couldn't read it the first time round.

 

:cheers:

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Hey calistyle, I assume you're in Cali? In any case, head over to the Newcomer Forum and tell us a little bit about yourself!

 

First things first, Le Tourment Verte is not absinthe, it's a pre-sweetened, artificially colored gimmick. So you kind of got hosed when you bought that bottle. Don't feel too bad, I bought one too back when it first came out. In fact I still have most of it left if you want it.

 

As for your questions:

 

Is thujone an important ingredient to have in absinthe? If so, what do you recommend?

 

No. There's more thujone in common cooking sage than you'll find in a bottle of absinthe. The entire thujone-hyping horsecrap is being propagated by those who want to convince you that absinthe is some sort of illicit drug. It's not. By and large, it's just booze.

 

Is taking shots completely worthless?

 

If you paid $80 for a bottle of wine would you have a contest to see who could drink it the fastest? If it's a decent absinthe, it's a waste because you lose out on all the complex herbal flavors and intriguing mouthfeel of the louche. I suppose if you just want to get shitfaced drunk, then take shots like you would anything else, but keep in mind most absinthe is a lot stronger than normal booze. Long story short, shoot something else, man. If you want to find out what absinthe is about, I would recommend preparing it in the traditional method, by diluting it with ice cold water to a ratio of between 3 and 4 parts to 1. Optionally you can drip the water over 1 or 2 sugar cubes to sweeten. Some prefer sugar, others do not, discover for yourself.

 

Which of the following would you recommend?

 

Well let's take a reality check for a sec. If you're going to drop $60-$80 on a bottle of booze, wouldn't you consider having one that was of superior quality shipped to you? I know I would (probably because I do). Also, depending on what part of Cali you are in, there may be a different liquor store near you that has a higher quality selection.

 

As others have noted, of those you listed your best bets are Leopold Bros. (haven't had it myself yet but have heard very good things), Obsello (I've yet to find anyone who "hates" this when dripped with a couple sugar cubes, even picky folks), Kübler (a blanche, meaning it's white not green), and Lucid (a reasonable quality verte). The St. George is not bad but it's very unusual for an absinthe, some odd herbal flavors, so I can't promise you'll like it - it's a quality product though.

 

Beyond those, domestically you can also find Sirene from North Shore Distillery in the Chicago area, and from what I understand you should soon be able to obtain Marteau Absinthe de la Bella Epoque, which is distilled in Portland. I've not yet had the Marteau because its maker is a stodgy old bastard who hasn't sent me a sample, but I have confidence in his abilities. The Sirene is very nice, and I enjoy it. What dakini_painter above failed to mention is that a rascally lady in small town Walton, NY at Delaware Phoenix Distillery will soon be releasing an absinthe as well, I encourage you to stalk their website for details on its release.

 

Now if you want pony up a bit more coin and have some stuff imported from Europe, which with courier winds up being about a hundred to one-fiddy a bottle, the options open up a lot. There are some very tasty absinthes being made on that side of the pond but it depends on whether you're willing to pay for them.

 

Cheers!

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Some things not on your list are Marteau from Integrity Spirits in Portand, OR and Sirene from North Shore Distillery in Chicago, IL. Worth trying.

 

I've gotten this mixed up before, so I'm asking to make sure - I thought Marteau was being made at House Spirits?

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I'm just a guy who clicks "buy" and doesn't ask questions!

 

Really, though, what all of the above said.

 

Drinking may be a luxury, but in my case I drink the stuff to take away the sting of the price. It works great, usually by the 2nd or 3rd glass I'm ready to hit that "buy" button again!

 

Welkome. :devil:

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Not just food porn!

 

If that wasn't bad enough, I forgot to extend a proper welcome to Calistyle. Welcome to the Forum!

 

You have received some excellent advice already. The best is, sip a glass of Kübler and read the faq. Oh yes, and have a good time. :cheers:

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Hello calistyle!

 

I think you've received some good advise from all of the above!

LTV is some nasty stuff.

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First things first, Le Tourment Verte is not absinthe, it's a pre-sweetened, artificially colored gimmick.

 

That is the best,most apt description of Le Tourment Verte that I have ever come across. All that and it's a true statement.

FWIW, I put Mata Hari in the same boat as LTV.

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Wow, very responsive forum. Thank you everyone for the prompt replies and info. Shortly after posting I saw someone mention Kübler on another thread. So I called a few Bevmo's and found it in Northridge. Went out there grab a bottle for a reasonable 50.00 and picked up a spoon and sugar cubes. I made myself a glass 2:1 ratio (water to Kübler) and checked back on this thread....Sure enough looks like I made a right choice.

 

My only issue is it's a little warm now, guess thats by design? Does it take away if I add ice to keep it cooler?

 

Regardless, I look forward to moving my way up to some of the over seas ones mentioned in the top 10 thread.

 

Oh and I live is southern california (simi valley to be exact)

 

Once again thanks everyone! :cheers:

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My only issue is it's a little warm now, guess thats by design? Does it take away if I add ice to keep it cooler?

Like so many things, it's a matter of taste. I'll frequently slip an ice cube into a glass to chill it out a little more. Another good friend here enjoys the changing taste as the drink slowly warms to room temperature. What ever suits your fancy. :cheers:

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Use ice cold water (I have no clue if you have a fountain that you can add ice to). Adding ice toe the glass is great especially for us slow drinkers ;)

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I'm the other one that likes it as it warms to room temp. You can really pick it apart when it's not cold. It's a personal thing. If I'm not curious, cool it shall be. If it's a WTF is in this, then it will get closer to room temp.

I've heard absinthe will make you crazy! :cheers:

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It's a tough job but somebody has got to do it. :cheers:

 

T is faster than me

Well, you've been out of the loop and I haven't been drinking that much today. Yet. ;)

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Sorry my mistake. Marteau is made at House Spirits. It's just so hard to keep track of all those microdistilleries in Portland when there's one two or three on every corner. :pirate:

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