Ethnologue Absintheur Report post Posted August 23, 2007 Hello everybody ! My name is Arnaud Van De Casteele, I'm French and I excuse for my English ! I am in doctorate in Sociology Anthropology and prepares a thesis on the Absinth. You can see my site : www.absinthology.org . That made from now on more than 5 years that I am interested truly in the Absinth in all his forms and with all his actors. I was born into France country not far from Pontarlier and since my tender childhood I always intended to speak about the green fairy. As, more as all I am impassioned subject and people who live her Absinth' world. For my anthropological work, I have an ethnological step of ground, i.e. which I travel to the meeting of anybody who want to speak to me well about the Absinth according to their point of view. I will be very honoured with being able from now on to meet more and to discuss with people coming from the United States or other countries and I thought that you could have helped me while speaking about my research. Thus horticulturists, producers legal and clandestin, alcohol salesmen, restorers, professionals of tourism, scientists biochemists, and biensur… of the Absinth Drinkers ! I began my ground in the area of the east of France and in Switzerland, visiting Paris and opening my ground maintaining in Europe: Spain, Portugal, England, Italy, Germany. I will be in Roumania ( 5 at 12 october) in Barsana to make a communication in a anthropologic conference of "Food and Rituals". I currently prepare one “Ethnologicalroad absinth” connecting Prague in Bucharest, while passing by Vienna, Bratislava, Budapest, Barsana and Cluj. I need some addresses of bars places, distillings, and autochtone’s contacts. I am opened with all practical information and assistances to organize my way as well as possible. Also if you have information on the various visited countries, do not hesitate with me to forward them. So, If you knows some people in this city, absinth's drinkers or not, Absinth drink and distillery, you can perhaps give me her email. If you gan give me some help, you welcome! Many Thanks Arnaud Ethnologue Absintheur Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaded Prole Report post Posted August 23, 2007 Go Here for most of the information you're looking for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Legate Report post Posted August 23, 2007 And Welcome to the Forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Boggy Report post Posted August 23, 2007 Hello, welcome and happy hunting of information Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Gwydion Stone Report post Posted August 23, 2007 Welcome Arnaud! Go Here for most of the information you're looking for. Why? I'm not seeing a whole lot there concerning "addresses of bars places, distillings, and autochtone’s contacts.... in Roumania ... in Barsana ... Prague in Bucharest,... Vienna, Bratislava, Budapest, Barsana and Cluj. So, If you knows some people in this city, absinth's drinkers or not, Absinth drink and distillery, you can perhaps give me her email. If you gan give me some help, you welcome!" Perhaps you misread Arnaud's request. He's working on an academic project concerning the sociology of absinthe across the spectrum, including the phenomena in Eastern Europe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaded Prole Report post Posted August 23, 2007 Perhaps you misread Arnaud's request. He's working on an academic project concerning the sociology of absinthe across the spectrum, including the phenomena in Eastern Europe. Perhaps, but there is much good information on absinthe history there including it's sociological aspects -- though not in Eastern Europe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Gwydion Stone Report post Posted August 23, 2007 Perhaps, but there is much good information on absinthe history there including it's sociological aspects -- though not in Eastern Europe.Undoubtedly. But since he's been working on a doctoral thesis for five years one would think he'd pretty much have that bit covered, being French and all. He came here asking for such specific information to help with this phase of his research, I just thought it was peculiar to refer him to such a general and largely irrelevant history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaded Prole Report post Posted August 23, 2007 Let him decide that and give him other info as well. No use being competitive over information fer crissake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeRoy Report post Posted August 23, 2007 Hello, Arnaud! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gwydion Stone Report post Posted August 23, 2007 No use being competitive over information fer crissake.Interesting you'd interpret it that way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stroller Report post Posted August 23, 2007 Welcome! Overall, both sites have useful information. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrayalien Report post Posted August 24, 2007 :groupwave reversed: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jaded Prole Report post Posted August 24, 2007 Overall, both sites have useful information Very true. And welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gwydion Stone Report post Posted August 24, 2007 You both missed my point; I send people to Oxy's all the time, it's a fine resource to which we are all indebted. I don't see where I said anything that should be construed as competitive. It's just that neither Oxy or I have much in the way of Eastern European networking resources on our sites. My point was that Prole sent him there saying "Go Here for most of the information you're looking for", when in fact none of the information Arnaud asked for can be found there. He wasn't looking for general absinthe background info or antique minutiae. Since I know that Prole knows the content of Oxy's site, I was puzzled why he would recommend it in this particular case, as it appeared that he had misunderstood Arnaud's purpose. I explained that already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ari (Eric Litton) Report post Posted August 24, 2007 You might consider contacting Oliva Absinth, they seem to be one of the few making (and researching) absinthe in the Czech republic. For a different but related product (often termed "bohemian-style") and a bit about the modern history, you might consider talking with Hills or L'or. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ethnologue Absintheur Report post Posted August 24, 2007 Thank you very much with all for your well reception ! I have biensur to visit the beautiful site of oxy but it did not give me information which interests me. It is important that you know that my step is before anthropological and that I is not defined at all as a historian, but like an ethnologist ! Indeed, which interests me, are the current social behaviors, the contemporary cultural fittings of the Absinth all over the World, the various uses and direction which the absintheurs live. The topics of the Identity, the Food, the Taste, the Body are amongst other things my anthropological fields. Ethnological work is a work of hard ground where it is necessary to be patient. It is a question of taking its reference marks in geographical spaces while being interested in the habits, of meeting and then quite naturally to sympathize with the indigenous one. Even if I have of excellent relationship with many of my “advisors”, I try to be most professional and neutral possible between the various stakes and interests. The relations of confidence are established with the time and the repetition of the meetings. I am sincere and with free spoken, I am secret and does not reveal informations only one not entrusted. As you will have included/understood, I am originating in the area where the wormwood with begun, I am thus Inhabitant of Franche-Comté and I particularly like the culture of my area and close Switzerland. I thus quite naturally started by studying in my area before attacking me in the World. I thus have my preferences gustatory and ideological on drink but I as well as possible try to know them and admit not to fall into subjectivity. Important thing: I am just an observer and not a "etablissor of moral". I am not there for saying that a thing is well or not well, that a wormwood is better than others,… What interests me above all, constructions symbolic systems and social. Another important thing on my subject, I am not nor commercial or salesman of wormwood (and does not want absolutely to become it). I am not financed for my thesis, I thus have freedom total of my remarks and does not work closely or by far for a distilling. (However, the generous patrons are the welcome if they leave me this scientific objectivity!). Bye ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wrayalien Report post Posted August 24, 2007 http://youtube.com/results?search_query=Absinthe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Legate Report post Posted August 24, 2007 Arnaud, when do you anticipate completing your thesis? I noticed the 5 years reference in your introduction but wasn't sure if you meant you have already worked 5 years on it or anticipate completing it in 5 years. Do you hope to publish the report as a book? I know there are many of us here that would enjoy viewing your thesis. All good wishes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ethnologue Absintheur Report post Posted August 24, 2007 Hi T73 for you answer... In fact I started with me interested “gentillement” in the subject about 2001 and I actively started to work the ground in 2003. I was obliged to find a university and a professor who can thus follow me in this adventure… I was officially registered in thesis in 2005. I èspère to finish in the two years to come. But the problem of the ethnologist is to manage to stop its work… more one digs and more one discovers. Always is it that I carry out this work by pure scientific interest, indeed nothing was not made in anthropology on the subject. This work had to be done! I know already that I am awaits the turning per much of anybody for the publication of quelquechose… patience! How to taste good Absinth, I want to also take my time! I have already just a little text in english from a conference I have made in London in march 2007. I can post it in this forum... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites