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#1 Stroller

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 05:36 PM

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 05:56 PM

:cheers: I have been away and now I'm back! I am also pleased with the way the Green Fairy is finally being allowed to fly in the US.
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 06:00 PM

Guess this has been in the works for awhile.
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 06:11 PM

It's good to see the door opening wider!
Too bad it's 45 percent. :cheers:

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 06:15 PM

Yeah, I wonder if it's going to be as lite as Lucid.

The mix ratio is curious. 1:5.......

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 06:18 PM

I don't want Lite and I don't want 45% but still! :cheers:

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 06:26 PM

Well put T (regarding the link). It's funny to read that Kübler link from 05' and see the disbelief about legal absinthe; heck, even a few weeks ago I don't think most of us would have believed what has now transpired would happen as quickly as it did.
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 06:34 PM

Glad we're getting more products.

Hope we'll get one that isn't jerked with for "American tastes" some day.

Kübler's already a boring-ass, lite absinthe. Any more lite and it will be weak vodka.

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 06:36 PM

heck, even a few weeks ago I don't think most of us would have believed what has now transpired would happen as quickly as it did.

Someone would have believed it. ;)

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 07:57 PM

I can't help but wonder if this whole thing of starting the US off on lite absinthes is going to impact American tastes more than cater to them.

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 08:24 PM

Better that, than Canadian tastes! After all, look what they got first, total shiite.

Really hope this one has some flavor to it, but at 45%, and ! 5:1 !! I dunno. What does that make it, like watery boones farm by then?

Maybe we'll be surprised, who knows.
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 08:36 PM

I can't help but wonder if this whole thing of starting the US off on lite absinthes is going to impact American tastes more than cater to them.


Baby Steps....Most Americans who have even heard of absinthe have no idea what it should taste like, so it would be hard to cater on a general scale. Most of the makers of quality absinthe know that there is a demographic of folks like us that know, expect, and want what is currently available in Europe( and of course, more if some HG'ers can start producing on a small scale). It's just the beginning.
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 08:39 PM

We have TED to thank for opening the door, though. :cheers:
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 08:52 PM

:huh:

Umm, Kübler opened the door for Ted. Just because they have not distributed in the US yet doesn't mean they were not approved prior to Ted. They submitted lab samples in March of 2004 which started the ball rolling. Ted did not submit samples until October 2006.

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 09:10 PM

All hail Ted... :yahoo:

And thanks to Kübler as well, they clearly got the lock loosened at least. Or is that Lucen'd?
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 09:36 PM

Samples, shmamples. ;)

Ted got in the door first and probably cleared away a lot of the red tape.
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 09:48 PM

At least I can DRINK what Ted made, right here, right now.
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 10:01 PM

Yep.
When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 10:22 PM

One could imagine that Ted was instrumental in dazzling them with science. The loophole, and that's what you have, not new legislation, is based on testing margin of error, if I'm not mistaken.

And do you know if Kübler was in fact approved prior to Louchid?

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 10:28 PM

It's just the beginning.

Nail, head.

But remember, it's not a total legalization,
products still have to pass the tests.
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 10:33 PM

Test of The Day...

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Posted 22 June 2007 - 11:21 PM

I will still drink a glass in celebration! How ironic is it that the only bottle i have is Kübler?
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Posted 22 June 2007 - 11:41 PM

I don't think there's any reason to fear for Americans suddenly developing taste en masse. I'm sure that quality absinthe -- like anything else of quality -- will remain scarce and difficult to obtain, even if it becomes much easier and cheaper than it is now. I won't be very surprised if absinthe lite, while better than Czech et. al. mouthwash, turns out to be the best we can hope to see achieving widespread popularity.

Also, with the door now open, I'd imagine it's only a matter of time before the aforementioned mouthwashes start swimming across the oceans and onto store shelves. We've now got the first and second legal absinthes lined up, but there's going to be a first KOSG-type crap too. I can't wait to see what it turns out to be. :thumbdown:

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 12:04 AM

'Zactlly! But the positive possibilities are also alive and well.

I will still drink a glass in celebration!

Me, too. This has been nothing short of a historic few weeks. Just because a few of us have become a snobs, no reason not to delight in a new era of Absinthe! I'm confident, some things are only just beginning. :cheers:

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 03:59 AM

Baby Steps....Most Americans who have even heard of absinthe have no idea what it should taste like, so it would be hard to cater on a general scale. Most of the makers of quality absinthe know that there is a demographic of folks like us that know, expect, and want what is currently available in Europe( and of course, more if some HG'ers can start producing on a small scale). It's just the beginning.


Well said. Hell, my peeps couldn't even eat or drink in some of the "white only" establishments 40 so years ago and look at us now!

Baby steps for sure and a change is a comin'! :cheers:
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Posted 23 June 2007 - 05:10 AM

We have TED to thank for opening the door, though. :cheers:

Umm, Kübler opened the door for Ted.

One could imagine that Ted was instrumental in dazzling them with science. The loophole, and that's what you have, not new legislation, is based on testing margin of error, if I'm not mistaken.

My understanding is, several people (some of them are members of WS) working together and separately deserve credit. I hope the whole story gets pieced together and all the names are rightly known. :cheers:

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 05:44 AM

Ted clearing Red tape?!? :laf:

If being the first to pat yourself on the back is clearing red tape then yes he hung the moon.

Importer/wholesaler permit is more about filing the correct paperwork, nothing more. Anyone with a permit can submit a sample to the TTB for approval. Zero red tape.

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 06:10 AM

Wow. If it was THAT easy, I guess we would have 30 legal American absinthes by now. ;) He did hang a nice moon. Thanks, Ted. :cheers:

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Posted 23 June 2007 - 06:15 AM

I'm sure there was also quite a bit of effort (and capital) put in just to get the government to review the standards and become more in line with the EU.

I would not be surprised if much of that capital came from the partners ar Viridian, since they include "partners Simon, Jerome and Leon Falic (whose major holdings include Duty Free Americas and luxury brands such as Christian Lacroix, Hard Candy, Urban Decay and the license to manufacture Perry Ellis fragrances and cosmetics); Jonathan Bonchick (formerly with Brown-Forman and currently with Duty Free Americas); and Eddie Soleymani and Leon Redensky (co-founders and Managing Directors of Lynx Capital Partners, LLC, an equity trading firm)."
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Posted 23 June 2007 - 06:23 AM

Actually there could be, but just because the lab approves them doesn't mean they are out yet.

Remember, Kübler provider their sample years before Ted. Makes you wonder who else has. Provide a sample to the TTB & get it approved & you too can be a living god like Ted.

Produce it in the US & call it what it is officially (Absinthe) in the paperwork and that would be something.


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