To Peridot, yes my comparison with Budweiser beer does fit. It is not made from beer ingredients, read the label. It is made from rice!!!! Beer should be made from hops and barely and wheat and also the word Budweiser means from the town of Budweise. Is your Budweiser from Czech? No.
No, rice is an ingredient in Budweiser but it still contains barley, hops, yeast, and water, the four ingredients essential to any beer. Also, Budweiser is a brand name. We're not talking about your company making an inferior quality absinthe and naming it after a town. We're talking about your company making a product that doesn't even contain all of the essential ingredients as an established type of liquor, but giving it the same name. Your comparison would more accurately fit Doubs absinthe.
To be fair, who are you guys that want proof? Are you self appointed Absinthe police?
Also what Absinth are you drinking there anyways I thought it was illegal in the US. How much taste experience can you really have? Don't be mad at us, we didn't make it illegal in your country.
I don't know. You came here.
Absinthe isn't "illegal" here, per se. Its importation is prohibited by customs guidelines, which aren't laws; they're guidelines about how to enforce laws. The customs guidelines regarding absinthe don't match FDA regulations. No absinthe except Lucid is FDA approved but owning non-FDA approved liquor isn't illegal. I can't be arrested for owning it. And if I'm caught importing it the only thing that happens is it gets seized by customs.
Please drop this "your criticism only stems from being mad that absinthe isn't legal in your country and you think it's our fault" line of reasoning. It's dishonest.
Why didn't your society excist before Hill's started the renewed interest in Absinthe and try to make it legal back then before the Czech bad marketing?
What the absinthe movement owes to your company's efforts has nothing to do with criticism of your product or similar ones.
How can I prove to you what we have in our Absinth and how we make it without revealing our secrets? Look how all these other Czech brands jumped on the bandwagon, do you think they would not be interested to know how we do things? Does Kentucky Fried Chicken tell you their secret herbs and spices. Do you ask them to prove that they use them? No they just say they do and if you don't like it then what can they do, don't eat it.
We're not asking what's in your absinthe. We're asking when it was first commercially produced. We already know enough about what it doesn't
contain for us to argue that it's not legitimate.
Peridot, Absinth was never Hill's most popular drink until some people discovered it when they were in Czech. The Absinth that Hill's made in the 1920's was different then what Radomil made the later on. So what? I think your just being a little to picky.
You're exactly making the point that the product that your company says has stood the test of time for 80 years is not the same product that has been produced for that long. Besides, I've never seen any proof that Hill's made any absinthe or absinth at all before the Czech-style product and I've never seen any evidence that even that was sold before 1990. Withstanding the test of time means being a tried and true product that has been commercial for the entire duration. If you make a product, then take it off the market, then sell it again it hasn't exactly withstood the test of time has it? Its recipe may have not deteriorated in the drawer where it was kept but that's nothing to brag about.
No, no, no you are putting words into my mouth. What I mean is that the fact that Absinthe was banned and all the stories around it help it to be more popular. You may be trying to stop people from saying this and keep it quiet to convince your government to make it legal again, but that is your guys problem. We in the free world here have no problem with talking about it's strange qualities.
We are trying to clear its name with FACTS.
Are you asking me Ari, based on what evidence Absinthe is a wormwood based drink? Maybe you should do some more research. The scientific name for wormwood is Artemisia Absinthium, hence the name of the drink Absinthe. Why would they call it Absinthe if that wasn't what it is distilled from? In Czech we also have Slivovice, sliv is the word for a plum in Czech hence slivovice. That's it's main ingredient, that is what it is distilled from. Wormwood however is a trickier process to use to make alcohol from.
That's not what he was asking you. He was asking why you think it's soley wormwood based as opposed to being an anise-based liquor that is flavoured with wormwood. Because if you actually do real research and look at old distillation protocols and recipes you'll see that anise is not only present in absinthe, but generally is used in twice the quantity of the grande wormwood. We've never seen any evidence of any absinthe before the release of Hill's that didn't use anise as the most abundant herb, which indicates that anise isn't optional, but one of several defining aspects of its character.
I urge you anti-Czech style Absinth hard line people to get off your behinds and go to Czech. See what we do and all the other drinks we make. Then you might not be so hasty in judgement. It is our unique distillation process that makes the herbs more potent in our Absinth.
You don't seem to understand. It doesn't matter if it's the nectar of the Gods if it's not absinthe. And even if your product was spectacular we'd have a problem with using the absinthe/ absinth name.
I live in Canada also and have realized that people out here are not used to very hard alcohol. You give them something that's only 50% alcohol and they cringe, no wonder they either don't like our Absinth straight or no wonder they don't feel anything from it, they're just to pissed to notice!
The reason absinthe is meant to be consumed with water is because slowly adding the water causes the essential oils to precipitate out, unlocking the flavour and aroma. With your absinth there apparently isn't any point in doing that. Well, that kinda flies in the face of absinthe tradition, don't you think?
No Peridot, you prove they are true. For example people say that "Hill's claim to have an alternative to the French tradition of pouring water of sugar into the Absinth" We have never said this and I shouldn't have to prove that this is not true, you should have to prove that we said it! And by we I mean someone from the Hill's Liquere Company. I can't control what other people blab out on the internet about our products as you can see.
I'm not asking you to prove that! I've told you what I'm asking you to prove already. The very fact of taking the name of a "notorious" drink when not making a product remotely similar is disingenuous and appears to be marketing-oriented, even if you never say "this is the drink Van Gogh drank."
Peridot you say you don't have to be a proffesional? Does that mean you are not a proffesional in Absinthe tasting? Why are you even here then?
Professionals by definition are paid for what they do. I'm not. How many people in the world are? No connoisseur has a responsibility to adhere to any "professional" language when reviewing an absinthe. My only responsibility is to accurately say what it tastes like to me.
You say "Also, even if you could prove that your product has some historical precedent, it still has nothing to do with the absinthe traditionally made in Switzerland or France except that it's alcoholic and contains wormwood. That's the drink we drink here, and it's the drink that absinthe history is all about"
Here you go again saying that our drink "contains wormwood" No, it is distilled from wormwood. You are just making assumption after assumption, you do not feel you have to be proffesional, so why don't you just not post in this thread. I would rather speak to proffesionals like Alan who are here to learn as well as give advice. You seem to be here only to bash.
You're being obtuse. I use "contains wormwood" to mean is distilled with it. Every brand of absinthe I drink is distilled with wormwood and I say "contains wormwood" when referring to them. A lot of your arguments appear to have been manufactured to avoid clearly answering the more important question of why you think your product should be called absinthe/ absinth.