Brooks Report post Posted May 16, 2007 It's like an Edward Hopper piece.That is the greatest comment I've heard in years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mayzandas Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Doesn't mean I can't still wince at cookie-crumb-coated "martinis", tho'. - Johanna Thank you for putting "martini" in quotes! Getting way off-topic here, but my wife and I went to a "martini" party over the holidays. I stepped up to the bar and the host asked me what sort of martini I'd like - he offered cosmos, chocolate, vanilla, etc., etc., "martinis." I told him I actually prefered just the basic martini. His face dropped. "You mean with gin?" Yes, please, I told him. He didn't have any gin. At his "martini" party. Things like this make me want to cut off my ear! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Robinson Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Wow. That bartender (or the organizer of the event) needs to be thrashed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Martin Lake Report post Posted May 17, 2007 I'm not even a martini fanatic and I think he needs to be thrashed. If you have a martini party, gin and vermouth should be basic prerequisites. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
britgeekgrrl Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Thank you for putting "martini" in quotes! I learned my lesson over on the assorted T&T threads. - Johanna Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShaiHulud Report post Posted May 17, 2007 It's like an Edward Hopper piece.That is the greatest comment I've head in years. I am not commenting on this, just preserving it before Brooks finds the edit button. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boggy Report post Posted May 17, 2007 I'm not even a martini fanatic and I think he needs to be thrashed. If you have a martini party, gin and vermouth should be basic prerequisites. Gin and vermouth (Martini presumably) are the pillars so that such a party will not collapse. Such people, on the other hand, should be sorted out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gwydion Stone Report post Posted May 17, 2007 my wife and I went to a "martini" party over the holidays. I stepped up to the bar and the host asked me what sort of martini I'd like - he offered cosmos, chocolate, vanilla, etc., etc., "martinis." I told him I actually prefered just the basic martini. His face dropped. "You mean with gin?" Yes, please, I told him. He didn't have any gin. At his "martini" party. A stellar example of just exactly why people need to be straightened out on the whole martini = cocktail issue. It's not about simple ignorance anymore, it's cultural illiteracy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ari (Eric Litton) Report post Posted May 17, 2007 Some day soon, Customer, "How do you make your virgin martinis here?" Waiter, "Orange juice and 7-Up with a cherry garnish, served in a martini glass." Customer, "Thank you, that would be nice. I ordered a virgin martini across the street and they gave me an olive in a glass and a funny look. Ignorant fools." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brooks Report post Posted May 18, 2007 It's like an Edward Hopper piece.That is the greatest comment I've head in years.I am not commenting on this, just preserving it before Brooks finds the edit button.No editing! A day later, I'm still laughing about it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brooks Report post Posted May 19, 2007 Gourmet Magazine's Drinks Editor chimes in on Lucid. "....even with Lucid's goofy bottle and lack of thujone, isn't it better to have the door to Absinthe open again?" Well, yes......even with its lack of thujone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJM Report post Posted May 20, 2007 Lucid has caught the attention of a "plogger" over at Amazon.com: You Can Quit Smuggling Absinthe It's a start. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LeRoy Report post Posted May 20, 2007 Hopefully, a beginning! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dakini_painter Report post Posted May 20, 2007 From the comments (all two of them) "my daughter goes to parties in Hollywood where they drink the stuff" (absinthe) "it'll probably cost $100 a bottle ... but I could be low-balling it" It never ceases to amaze me how often people just don't think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ejellest Report post Posted May 20, 2007 Gourmet Magazine's Drinks Editor chimes in on Lucid. "....even with Lucid's goofy bottle and lack of thujone, isn't it better to have the door to Absinthe open again?" Well, yes......even with its lack of thujone. ...And he is the drinks editor at Gourmet? No wonder cocktails and spirits are not well covered in that magazine. The thing that caught my eye was this, "I compared Lucid ... to an Absinthe from France called Jade PF 1901. I preferred the latter, which was much herbier and less sweet, but others preferred the Lucid." Is he talking about perceived sweetness? Or is Lucid actually sweetened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peridot Report post Posted May 20, 2007 Probably perceived sweetness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JM_frankensnyder Report post Posted May 22, 2007 The reviews are coming in - anyone know where to actually buy it? The Lucid website is silent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dakini_painter Report post Posted May 23, 2007 Don't know anything about where to buy it. But the folks at the "upscale" bar+restaurant are well aware of Lucid. They're very excited about the availability of legal absinthe. Whether their distributor will carry it is another matter. (btw, this is upscale relative to the beer dives - where Budweiser is considered high-end - that qualify as bars around here.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TR. WILLY Report post Posted May 23, 2007 I have a number of places from SoHo to the upper east side that will call or e-mail me when they have it. I'm looking forward to tasting it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shinsain Report post Posted May 23, 2007 ...Teams of scouts, pulling recon. missions for WS operatives... I want a bottle of that stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TR. WILLY Report post Posted May 23, 2007 Great,isn't it. When will Lucid appear. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ari (Eric Litton) Report post Posted May 23, 2007 ...Teams of scouts, pulling recon. missions for WS operatives... Brownie or Cub? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TR. WILLY Report post Posted May 23, 2007 Either way Ari the hunt is on. The prize,a bottle of Lucid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
printmkr Report post Posted May 23, 2007 I wonder if one did acquire a bottle(s) of Lucid, if eBay would allow you to put it up for auction. I mean it is legal... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ejellest Report post Posted May 23, 2007 (edited) I wonder if one did acquire a bottle(s) of Lucid, if eBay would allow you to put it up for auction. I mean it is legal... Sure. As long as you are selling a "collectible glass bottle", and not the contents. There're a few illegal "Absinthes" on eBay now being sold in this manner. I find it amusing that some of them advertise the "high thujone content" of their collectible glass bottles. Edited May 23, 2007 by ejellest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dakini_painter Report post Posted May 24, 2007 ...Teams of scouts, pulling recon. missions for WS operatives... Brownie or Cub? Probably, Girl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TR. WILLY Report post Posted May 24, 2007 Hi All This post is to explain my position on Lucids marketing strategy In the 1950s Tanqueray changed its marketing strategy. To appeal the high class sophisticated crowd, with the thinking that the rest of the cocktail drinkers will follow. They did and Tanqueray skyrocketed in its' popularity. They're popularity and a marketing strategy, has survived the test of time. Just ask Tony Sinclair. In the 5os it was Frank Sinatra and his Rat Pack. Absinthe with its rich and colorful history in the world of art and literature, Oscar Wilde, Toulouse Lautrec, Edouard Manet and Ernest Hemingway just to mention a few. These are the kind of people and credentials that define sophistication, intelligence and class. These are the kind of accolades that would draw people to Absinthe and make them proud to present it at a dinner party as the good stuff. As for cocktails, Hemingway's Death in the Afternoon, Toulouse Lautrec earthquake or others from the Belle Époque era would maintain the connection to the history. So in a way Absinthe would advertise it's self. Every time you hear the name Ernest Hemingway, Toulouse Lautrec and so on you will think Absinthe, as most of us here and at la Fee Verte do already. Lucid seems to want to ignore all of this and go for the frat boy party crowd with a goofy bottle and cookies crumbs on martini glasses. Is Lucid owned by Americans? Because this strikes me as a Madison Avenue gimmick campaign looking for the fast return for they're money. Also the college party crowd is more likely to get liquored up and do something real crazy that could ruin the Absinthe movement. In my opinion Tanqueray has the right approach. to all TR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brian Robinson Report post Posted May 24, 2007 Is Jade owned by Americans? Keep in mind, this isn't a Jade product. It's a Veridian Spirits product made by Ted. You also can't really fault a company for trying to appeal to the audience that will create the most potential for immediate sale. Those immediate sales will then hopefully boost further sales (and possibly further absinthe education) through word of mouth and recurring business. That's just good capitalistic strategy. I don't like the bottle design too much either, but I can't fault them for trying to appeal to a larger audience. As for the drink recipes, we need to face the facts, frufru drinks and crazy cocktails are the thing of the moment. It seems as though the bars with the widest variety of "martinis" gets the most hype. (Notice I put the word in quotation marks. Call off the dogs! ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A. Raitano Report post Posted May 24, 2007 The cold, hard fact of it is that absinthe has the appeal of, "drink this and you'll get high". I'm no absinthe expert but that seems to be an erroneous claim. It is merely a refreshing drink on a hot summer's day. However, America, and the rest of the world apparently, believes otherwise. Thujone this, hallucination that. The problem is that we in the grand ol' U S of A can't get the stuff without paying out our ears for shipping costs because Van Gogh cut his off. Thanks, Vinnie. Not to belabor a point but Lucid, silly cat eyes and all, can open the door for full-on, Jade PF in your local liquor store. I don't think it matters if it's palatable or not (although palatable would be preferable), it's not being marketed to those that know that Absinthe won't make you tryp ballz. Any move to make absinthe (or anything for that matter) available from a corner store rather than half way around the world is a big ol' thumbs up in my book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OMG_Bill Report post Posted May 24, 2007 I'll take two. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites