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#1 Aussie_Absinthe

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Posted 17 August 2006 - 07:44 PM

Absinthe on aussie TV

http://www.abc.net.a...06/s1697908.htm

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#2 InAbsinthia

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 03:34 AM

Very nice show! I loved seeing the Combier distillery.
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Posted 18 August 2006 - 04:07 AM

And Luc in his shop, too! Very nice. :cheers:

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 05:51 AM

Not too shabby, although some disagree with Ted's assertion that absinthe can't be made with modern equipment. I'm fairly certain that if absinthe had never been banned, Pernod Fils would be using state-of-the-art alembics today.

But all-in-all, not a bad job representing our vice of choice.

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 07:16 AM

Agreed. I liked the tone of this piece better than the thirsty traveler bit. Luc is quite the snappy dresser!

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Posted 18 August 2006 - 06:11 PM

I'm not sure if this has been discussed and dismissed already, but this thread has reminded me. Did anyone catch Anthony Bourdain in France for his show No Reservations? He does a little absinthe tour. Interesting to watch.... as only Anthony Bourdain can be.
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Posted 18 August 2006 - 06:18 PM

Yep. ;)

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 04:41 AM

Not too shabby, although some disagree with Ted's assertion that absinthe can't be made with modern equipment. I'm fairly certain that if absinthe had never been banned, Pernod Fils would be using state-of-the-art alembics today.

But all-in-all, not a bad job representing our vice of choice.


Much like the one Kallnacher has and uses for experimentation for absinthe as well as other things. New, modern with lots of nice features but still very traditional.
http://www.absinthe....er_newstill.jpg

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 08:26 AM

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 08:37 AM

I doubt that PF would be using stills of that particular type as pictured above. I don't doubt that they would move on to a newer type of still, but what improvements could be made (as far as absinthe is concerned) I don't know. Keep in mind that you want as little opportunity for reflux to the vapor coming over the swan neck to occur. Those stills, as pictured, are designed to "clean up" a lot of the vapors coming over, and return them to the boiler.

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 08:51 AM

Anyone have a non-stream or non-real-media version?
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Posted 19 August 2006 - 09:17 AM

Those stills, as pictured, are designed to "clean up" a lot of the vapors coming over, and return them to the boiler.

Actually, those stills are used for brandy, I think they'd be excellent for absinthe, except possibly for the narrow and angular pipes that have replaced the swan neck. I thought they were mostly interesting for the pot shape, as a modern still with a more traditional absinthe still form. Many of the Holstein alembics are designed so that you can choose whether or not to even use the column.

My basic point is just that there is modern equipment that can combine the best of classic design along with modern efficiency and scientific fine-tuning of things like tails management, temp and reflux. Modern equipment is designed to give the operator much more control than many of the older stills, giving the ability to monitor and control reflux with the turn of a few knobs.

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 10:19 AM

Interesting show to watch, yes, but wait a minute... What the heck is happening here, at 1.59 - 2.01 in the movie? Ted putting the whole herbs of wormwood into the alembic??? With stems and all? :blink:
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Posted 19 August 2006 - 10:56 AM

Yep, Stems and all.

It probably does not hurt anything to do that.

Maybe it increases the Thujone.
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Posted 19 August 2006 - 12:18 PM

Hiram--

is the reason you don't want any reflux because you are working with an already distilled spirit?

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 12:45 PM

Yep, Stems and all.

It probably does not hurt anything to do that.

Maybe it increases the Thujone.



I'm sure it does increase the thujone, because most of the thujone resides in the stemmy parts. I for one think that adding stems is a no-no. The old texts state to use the "tops" (leaves and flowers). I find the stems add an stange bitterness. If Ted is indeed using stems in his brew, that is quite a departure from the classic quality approach to absinthe making.

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 02:02 PM

When I went to the Pernot Distillery we stripped several kilos of wormwood from the stems. The stuff was so pungent that you had to wear a surgical mask to keep from choking on it.
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Posted 19 August 2006 - 02:20 PM

Perhaps Ted wanted to give an easy to see demonstration without killing or confusing the camera crew.

Or perhaps he is making a new Jade, "Jade Dr.O Amer."
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Posted 19 August 2006 - 03:57 PM

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Posted 19 August 2006 - 06:22 PM

Hiram--

is the reason you don't want any reflux because you are working with an already distilled spirit?

No, the same would apply to making whisky from a previously un-distilled wash. It's not that you don't want any reflux—there will always be some—but you don't want too much. Reflux is where the vapors meet with obstacles (such as sharply angled surfaces, sudden bends or perforated plates) which cause the heavier parts of the vapor to condense and "flow back" (hence, re flux) into the pot to be vaporized again. This principle can be manipulated to control what parts of the distillate are collected and at what point. The big columned reflux stills are used to strip out all or most of the congeners (and therefore flavor), great for vodka, bad for absinthe, whisky, rum, gin, brandy and any other liquor that wants flavor and aroma.

Flavored liquor is made in pot stills, or "alembics," vodka and neutral spirits are made in reflux stills. Some stills, like those pictured above, are designed to function as either, depending on what's being run at the time.

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Posted 21 August 2006 - 08:29 PM

This still from the site you mentioned earlier, H, might work better.
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Posted 22 August 2006 - 03:09 AM

The still att the Matter-Luginbühl distillery, if I remember correctly, could be modified by turning some levers depending on what you wanted to distill, partly to control reflux.

There was also very smart solutions for cleaning it and steaming etc.

AFAIK, made according to the specs by Oliver himself. A very nice setup.
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