JBPfranc Report post Posted March 21, 2006 I have lots of exp in underground zines - or are these pointless now due to these forums? Would we even want one? I could have it all along the West coast. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGreenOne Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Who do you mean by "we?" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ari (Eric Litton) Report post Posted March 21, 2006 IMO absinthe has been part of the 'underground' scene for awhile and the goal is to get good absinthe part of the everyday alcohol scene. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JBPfranc Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Then its important to get the info to more people than just the ones on the absinthe forums. You'll get nowhere without informing people of the truth and trust me - make a loud enough issue of the stupid gov. ban on it and people will begin to listen. How many states have legalized pot for medical purposes? It's the same thing people - you want to bring it loud and keep bringing it. Europe, as usual, is much farther ahead than we are. Don't just sit there sneaking shipments in - stand up and contact your masters,err, government, and let them know how stupid it is. Write your newspapers and keep writing. Contact everyone you can with the REAL information - become your own source of inspiration - become the media. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shinsain Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Hmm, Absinthe zine...sounds like something someone from Alandia would put out??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ari (Eric Litton) Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Information about absinthe is getting out, take many of the recent quality articles about absinthe, such as the one that has strained LDF's shipping abilities. Talking to the gov doesn't do much good, medical marijuana required the passing of bills. In absinthe's case it's the FDA we need to talk to and I bet they don't do anything without a legal challenge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plunger Report post Posted March 21, 2006 (edited) Who do you mean by "we?" <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Aww..c'mon! The Absinthe Syndicate™, of course. I need enlightenment. How do I get the trademark on there properly? Edited March 22, 2006 by Hiram Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elfnmagik Report post Posted March 21, 2006 I'm sure there's an easier way, but cut and paste has worked for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Bill Turkey Report post Posted March 21, 2006 on my keyboard, it's pressing the option key and the number 2. ™ also option+0 (zero) gives you the symbol for degreesº, kind of useful in ABV discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elfnmagik Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Windows based is Alt+0153 (number keypad) :P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Legate Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Option key? That's right next to "any key," right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wild Bill Turkey Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Yeah, I'm that guy you might have read about. The one that bought the Macintosh computer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Legate Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Oh yeah? Well, I'm the guy that called tech support asking why my computer had two cup holders™ ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shinsain Report post Posted March 21, 2006 ™ HOLY CRAP! IT WORKED!™ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndrewT Report post Posted March 21, 2006 Or you can just use the board's text filter and put "tm" in (parentheses) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGreenOne Report post Posted March 21, 2006 And then meditate for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gwydion Stone Report post Posted March 21, 2006 become the media. You keep using that phrase. It sounds familiar. Where's it from? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Legate Report post Posted March 21, 2006 I vote Jello Biafra. I've been a Dead Kennedy's fan since 'fore they were dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gwydion Stone Report post Posted March 21, 2006 DING! DING! DING! OWNED Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
plunger Report post Posted March 21, 2006 owned Yea baby! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Absomphe Report post Posted March 22, 2006 I have lots of exp in underground zines - or are these pointless now due to these forums? Would we even want one? I could have it all along the West coast. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I see banned people. Talking around like regular people... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beowulfgang Report post Posted March 22, 2006 trust me - make a loud enough issue of the stupid gov. ban on it and people will begin to listen. How many states have legalized pot for medical purposes? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Um, none. Two have tried, and the feds put a permanent damper on that. States cannot make legal what the federal government expressly prohibits. They can only choose not to prosecute, if it happens to be criminal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gwydion Stone Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Yeah. Jello would have known that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Joe Legate Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Yeah but do I get a prize for winning the Jello Biafra trivia contest? I was shocked when Montana voted 2 to 1 to legalize medical marijuana. This is a red state but very independent. Despite the Feds opinion, the Attorney General made it very clear his job was to uphold the election. The last report I heard, almost 150 patients had received the prescription. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saucier Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Green Cross is alive and well in Seattle also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGreenOne Report post Posted March 22, 2006 There are some who claim that HHS has de facto conceded that marijuana has medical value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
luchog Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Um, none. Two have tried, and the feds put a permanent damper on that. States cannot make legal what the federal government expressly prohibits. They can only choose not to prosecute, if it happens to be criminal. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Not entirely accurate. While it is still illegal on the Federal level, local state laws vary; and a number of states have passed legislation legalizing it within their own borders, generally for medical purposes only. This means that it exists in a quasi-legal status somewhat similar to prescription medications, as far as the state is concerned. Although it's still possible for federal agents to sieze, arrest, and prosecute for production, possession, and distribution; they cannot mandate the assistance of local law-enforcement the way they can in other states. There was a test of this in California a few years back; with federal agents demanding that the San Francisco PD assist them in one of their large busts. The SFPD successfully refused to cooperate in any way; and IIRC the city government attempted to get the bust quashed (not as successfully). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheGreenOne Report post Posted March 22, 2006 There is no quasi-legal status for medical marijuana. The Supreme Court ruled in Raich v. Ashcroft that the interstate commerce clause trumped state and local authority in this matter. Interestingly, two of the Court's most conservative Justices, Rehnquist, and Thomas, dissented in the 6-3 ruling. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saucier Report post Posted March 22, 2006 Local Authorities do make their own priorities, or priorities may be set for them by the public they serve. With some well-publicized exceptions, medical marijuana is ususally not a high-priority "crime" in those states which have tried to make it available to patients. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gwydion Stone Report post Posted March 22, 2006 The original assertion (by JBPfranc posing as Jello, remember) was that pot had been legalized, which started the debate. It hasn't, it's still a federal crime, all over the country. Whether or not a given authority chooses to prosecute that crime and to what degree, is a separate issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
