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  1. I finally got to the Kbler 53. In short (and nothing new to the WS folk, I'm sure), it came across as "Suisse La Bleue Clandestine" LITE. Aroma, taste, sweetness, texture, all right on target, just a little less intense than the Clandestine. Definitely climbs to a high position on my list. I see that the Kbler 57% and 45% are no longer going to be produced. Any reason to consider trying to get either or both before they are gone for good? Not so much as a collector's thing, but do either have "character" that is missing in the newer 53%?
  2. As for the question: I'd opt for #1, commercial, import, etc... The purists are always going to support the specialty producers. In my limited exposure so far, it is clear there is already a wide variety in the flavors/quality/appeal in the commercial, albeit illegal, absinthe. I doubt a flood of cheap, commercial absinthe would turn anyone here into the equivalent of "Joe 6-pack". Is there any reason to believe that the marketplace would be flooded with bulk absinthe? Even so, would the boutique producers give up? Should we expect the Suisse Clandestines (for example) to disappear now that production is legal in Switzerland? Perhaps neither is best. Maintain the scarcity. The mystique. Probably keeps the Darwin-awardees at bay.
  3. Hartsmar, What do you think a bottle like this ought to sell for? The seller makes it sound like there are several to be had...
  4. Well, I tried the Leone. Definitely a departure from the other absinthes I've tried. All of the others have been instantly appealing (Suisse, Jade N.O., BdF, VdF). What to say? I don't detect the anise in any strength, as it seems to be overpowered by the citrus-like flavor. Almost harsh to a fault. I didn't add sugar and found the bitterness was much more distinct here. Not that it wasn't sweet, it was. I doubt adding sugar would help much. My palate is not yet sophisticated enough to pick out the other flavors (melissa?, etc...), but I gonna keep working at it. Just 'cause I rank it at the bottom of my short list doesn't mean it is undrinkable. Far from it, I suspect it will grow on me. A curious detour, I certainly wouldn't have wanted this to be my first encounter with absinthe. This bottle is going to last a long time. Oh, it was a very pale green, but louched terrifically. What do the rest of the WS intelligentsia do with the oddities? Do these always get consumed or do many of you have bottles languishing away in the recesses of your liquor cabinets?
  5. Yeah. Can you imagine the amount of sugar it would take to blunt the bitterness of 2 - 21% absinthium? I've no yardstick by which to guestimate the corresponding amount of thujone, but I'd wager it would knock you down...
  6. I asked the question about the anis and wormwood. The reason was because of the following quote I stumbled upon while searching for info on Suntory Hermes: JAPAN: Hermes Absinthe -- 58% alcohol. Very Pernod like. The bottle used to read, "Suntory has substituted Anis for Wormwood, a poison, for the drinker's safety." Though it no longer does. Recently, they changed their recipe, now it's very brown and gritty tasting, oversaturated with herbs. So much anis that it'll numb your tongue. Louches very well. Tastes great. Comes in a pretty green bottle that reads "absinthe" on the front. I found it on the following page: Hermes reference quoted above I can see why the question seemed like a joke, but I was just trying to figure out if the seller had a wormwood-free version (recent production) or if it was really old like the seller claimed. Had I scrutinized the "shrink-wrap" cap, I'd have come to the same conclusion that it couldn't be from the '40s. pierreverte: Great find. The seller should bring his price back down to earth... Back to my earlier question: Is this brand supposed to be any good? Old versus new production?
  7. I won't pretend to know much about vintage (no matter how recent) absinthe, but I was perusing ebay earlier and came across this item: eBay lising for Suntory Hermes Absinthe In the time it took to ask the seller a question and get the reply, the starting price and "Buy it Now" price doubled! Seems the seller realized the bottle was much older than originally thought. Too pricey for my wallet, but I thought I'd ask the venerable WS members if this bottle is likely to be worth the asking/selling price? Did the Suntory absinthe have a decent reputation (especially if from the '40s)? Most importantly, would it be a gustatory treasure or just an historical find?
  8. Great logo, Hiram! Does the absinthe ever burn, too? I realize the O2 would be gone in a flash and it would extinguish itself pretty fast, but the whole notion seems wrongheaded. Why add the (in this context) sickeningly sweet, caramel-like effect on top of the absinthe? It seems guaranteed to overwhelm the rest of the ritual. I realize I could dig for this, but what is the earliest record of this flame variation of the ritual? More importantly, why does it persist? I can see no value added and if you are just doing it for the visual, why waste the absinthe (unless it is really that crappy)? (A little photoshop and you can see Conju's visage a bit better... Looks more like skepticism to me.)
  9. "fire...drums...sweaty, naked painted chicks..." Geez! Most of the fires I've been around were for WARMTH! You know, the kind where one side of you is prickly from the heat and the other side is near frost-bit. I recall (despite the schnappes and Lowenbrau) a canoe trip down the Buffalo River in Arkansas where I set myself on fire standing too close to the ol' campfire. Man was it cold! But boy did I jump when I realized my pant leg was succumbing to an accelerated entropy. Of course, that wasn't as bad as a few of my fellow canoers who turned over in the bitterly cold water.
  10. Jack, I'd be glad to send a box or two out your way. If nothing else, you could take them to the next WS event for a side-by-side with other favorites.
  11. Jack, Did you try the India Tree cubes? I came across a source here in Atlanta and considered buying a package. I'm not that keen on the added sugar (so far) in the absinthes I've tried, but would like a nice cube selection for when I have guests over for a tasting... I figure I ought to be ready for an invitation when my next shipment from across the pond shows up.
  12. "Survival is the ability to swim in strange currents." - Bene Gesserit Axiom May you have many more birthdays in the strange currents...
  13. Time to resurrect my own thread... Well, now that I've tried a few (Suisse, Jade N.O., VdF, BdF), I scraped a little more $ to support the EU. Ordered the Absinthe Leone, Kübler 53, and Montmartre. Almost ordered the Libertine, but the wallet check scared me off. I sure wish the shipping weren't so high, it's like giving up a bottle or two just to get these sent. All of these were about half the cost of the Jade N.O. Should I expect half the quality? :twitch: I've seen some compliments on the Kübler and the Montmarte from forum members. Any comments on the Leone? I'll post my own uncultured assessment when they get here (hopefully by early next week).
  14. In my most weasly voice: "I've been preoccupied..." As for a "break from lurking" post while I await my next order of Absinthe... How 'bout my angry smallpox vaccine pic (yes it's me...):
  15. Good lord! 2% wormwood extract. "(equivalent to 1.27 g/kg/day in males and 2.06 g/kg/day in females)". Can you imagine. A comparable amount in a 150 lb person would be between 86 and 140 grams per day! Let's see. That means between 3 and 5 ounces per day. One ounce in a shot. 3 to 5 shots of straight wormwood oil a day! Now to figure out the typical amount of thujone per gram of wormwood oil...
  16. Egads, you're correct, sir! I linked to the wrong .pdf file. Here is the correct link: Correct link to Hold study I was also reminded of the saccharin studies. The cyclamate scare, too. That stuff is still off the market in the U.S. My grandmother (diabetic) was pissed when it was pulled since she liked it better than saccharin (aspartame didn't hit the market for several more years). Considering we live in a risk-filled world, it seems only common-sensical to pay attention and choose which risks are worth taking. I mean, I take a far greater risk just driving to work each day than a lifetime of thujone exposure (in absinthe at a sensible rate of consumption) would ever cause. Then again, what constitutes sensible?
  17. If you want to see the original article (in Adobe Acrobat format), follow this link: Thujone article by Hold and colleagues I can't say I've scrutinized the data particularly closely, but it looks to me like the levels of thujone in most Absinthe must be so far below the levels associated with any significant toxicity that it is a moot point to worry about it. In some ways it might be better that this group used a "lesser" brand for their trials. Had they used one of the favorites (at least here at the WS), I suspect the hue and cry would be deafening...
  18. Gosh, I AM in the presence of die-hard absintheurs. Not a one of you took the "pulchritude" bait. Ted, I meant no offense in my comments. I figured the producers practiced no small measure of editing/editorializing/staging to pull the episode together. I did enjoy the episode, though. Even with the recoil of horror at the end when I spied those abominable "rock fairies". Wherefore the gossamer wings, the diaphanous gowns, the pale luminescent skin? Alas, only the harsh light of day.
  19. Well, I got to see the Thirsty Traveller episode about the Green Fairy. A couple of comments: It was the first time I'd seen an image of Betty. She'll win no awards for pulchritude, but seemed to make up for it in cheerfulness. The interview with Ted surprised me. I thought he allowed for a misrepresentation to slip by about the presence (or absence) of thujone in absinthe. He was emphatic that thujone is not carried through the distillation process (probably true), but fails to point out that the highly alcoholic distillate is subsequently used to extract botannical "essences" from the magical mix in the burlap bag. I am under the impression that if wormwood is in the "bag" that thujone ought to be one of the extracted chemicals that ends up in the macerated product. Am I mistaken here? It is not that I really care whether the impression is true or not, just that I would hate to think that the viewer is expected to believe absinthe is thujone-free, when it is clearly present (at some concentration, however small) in much of the absinthe produced commercially. Plus, the wormwood dumped into the distillation vat looked pretty cruddy. I always figured it would be chopped into small pieces, perhaps even with the stems removed. I had this image in my mind of clean, green leaves and young stems being steeped (like a "tea"), but in the aforementioned scene it looked like the end of some junky old broom had been lopped off and poked in the vat. Not entirely appealing I must say...
  20. 'Don't know about the haggis. A delicacy yet to be savored. I must admit the first time I saw headcheese (and more importantly the first time I saw it made), it nearly drove me to become a vegetarian. Now, beef tongue! That makes a mighty fine sandwich (sliced, of course).
  21. How's the song go? "If drinking absinthe is bad, I don't wanna be good!"
  22. Not being a particularly voluminous imbiber, I need a recommendation for a cork source. I don't want to recycle a wine cork. Nevertheless, I will need one soon since the cork that came in my bottle of Jade N.O. is fragile: no, even crumbly. I'd hate to have it fall apart and not have a good alternative available. I like the corks that came in my bottles of Suisse La Bleue and the Verte and Blanche de Fougerolles (they have wooden "handles" glued or otherwise attached to the cork). Can these be found at retail somewhere?
  23. Jeez. Caught napping again. 'Can't believe I've already missed 4 chances to see the Thirsty Traveler "Green Fairy" episode. One more chance next week... I concur on the "documentary" vs. "news magazine" comments above. Bringing history to life, illuminating a little-understood topic, reveling in the burgeoning "absinthe scene". Yeah, I'd like to see it done right. Unfortunately, if the news magazines get hold of the story, it'll come across like some stepping stone into Hell. As for the Feds knocking on anyone's door or seizing shipments, is it really anything more than rare? I mean, I can't imagine this happening with any frequency. Any one care to venture a statistic on the subject?
  24. Let's see. elric13 joined the 17th of January and is #92, I joined the 20th of January and am #97. The First Fool (no relation to the man on Pennsylvania Ave.?) attempts to join a few days ago and is #111. I sense momentum here. Will there ever be a critical mass? Whoa! Will there ever be enough? And I must have missed the "referral edict" somehow. Given my proximity, glad I got in under the wire too. Having lived in Tucson for several years, I am disappointed Master Fool claims it as residence. Tucson is actually rather nice if you can handle the summer heat. Spectacular electrical storms. I watched the Catalina mountains erupt in flames after one such storm. A terrible spectacle. Elitist: Definition: [n] someone who believes in rule by an elite group Antonyms: egalitarian, equalitarian My limited experience at this forum leads me to believe there is far more of the latter than the former at play. Herr Fool ought to know better. Besides, since when did enthusiasm, curiosity, and fun get confused with elitism?
  25. Unopened bottles of Orbitz? Are you treating them like vintage stock, to be opened at some future gala event? I probably went through about a dozen bottles trying the various flavors and giving each a second try. I guess I decided there wasn't enough flavor or else that the gimmick wore off faster than a pet rock or mood ring (hoo boy!). It would be fun to scare up a bottle or two to show my kids. I wonder if Clearly Canadian actually made any money on the stuff? The closest beverage I've run into lately are the Vietnamese "bubble teas" with the tapioca balls. But the tapioca is chewy/sticky and didn't defy gravity like the whatever-they-were globs in the Orbitz bottles.