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Absinthe Ben

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  1. Yes, so long as we all understand it should not be a concrete pre-requisite for all generations to come I think we're on the same page.

     

    Speedle's suggestion of having an extensive background of tasting experience will of course play an important role in determining the style of absinthe as well.

     

    As another note, I just read through the forums at Fee Verte regarding Edward III. I suggest you all do the same, as you're not getting the whole story until you do...


  2. I think it's your duty to at least try a pre ban if you're going to be producing it. I really do.

     

     

    I have to agree. You can't make absinthe if you haven't had absinthe.

     

     

    I couldn't imagine making absinthe without first sipping some pre-ban. I do admire a couple guys jumping out in the cold heartless world and giving it a shot though.

     

    I'm sorry, I just can't go along with this. We all know vintage absinthe will only be around so long. What will you tell the new producers in 10 or 20 years that may not be able to obtain a sample? "Despite a quality product, you're not qualified to be an absinthe producer"?

     

    Though for the record, I think Bill is probably being the most fair about this given his follow-up statement.


  3. Hi, This is Edward, developer of the recipe/formula of Edward III New York Absinthe and designer of the label. I can see that the Wormwood Society forums are a much more civil place than the Fee Verte forums, and at the suggestion of Brian Robinson I thought I would finally introduce myself here. I am not expecting a repeat of the disaster that followed when I attempted to discuss the brand over at FV before we were approved (IMO the timing of that post was extremely pre-mature, and only invited skepticism).

     

    I don't mean to sow any discord within my own company, but I did not approve nor do I agree with the posts Mark made under the display name "EdwardIIINYAbsinthe" (or his recent posts either for that matter). I think it was highly irresponsible of him to act as if he were representing the views of the company without discussing it with me, especially since he had very little role in the actual formula or the research that lead to it (it should be noted that he was there at every step of the way, and tasted and approved it at every stage).

     

    Neither Mark nor I are Absinthe historians and I personally would never claim to be. There is a big difference between being a historian of Absinthe and putting in the time and research required to produce and launch a Swiss Blanche, just one type of Absinthe out of many, many variations.

     

    So.... Hello! I'm a nice guy and I do have a sense of humor, contrary to some of the opinions at FV. In fact, I laughed my ass off at a lot that was posted over there even when the joke was on us.

     

    Welcome Edward. Unlike Mark, all of the conversations I've had with you in particular have proved to me that you are a good, honest fellow that has never claimed to be a grand master of absinthe production.

     

    I sincerely wish I could say the same about your business partner.

     

    Contrary to popular belief I founded the company and named it after Edward.

     

    This makes me very sad. If you were not the founder and only a top position in the company I'd have suggested to Edward that he fire you immediately.

     

     

    Ill just read for a while now and not post until I can contribute to the conversation instead of making points.

     

    That would be a very, very good idea. Realize that all the bridges that have been burned by your carelessness you are not just hurting yourself, but are equally crippling and alienating your business partners (who, as far as I can tell, have a much different agenda than you).

     

    If I were Edward, I would be on the lookout to join a new company. If I were your partners doing the actual production I'd be looking over the contract searching for any loophole to get out of it.

     

    I think FPB put it very well:

     

    This partnership looks to have the viability of the average Hollywood romance.

  4. Late to the party again. :(

     

    You seemed like a nice enough fellow and then you go and do something like this. What's most puzzling is that a good number of members (and lurkers) here have most likely already pre-ordered your absinthe and have been waiting months for an actual bottle to ship. Doesn't make a whole lot of business sense to me. But what do I know...I have a shop in a hick town and watch quite a bit of TV (insert sarcasm quotes here.) :fork:

     

    For someone that I now see is such a pure marketeer, you sure don't know how to do your job, Mark. As someone in the same business as you (and even with less experience in my case), you make some pretty awful mistakes:

     

    1.) No tact. You're laying on that sales pitch thicker than crunchy peanut butter. People tire of this very quickly, and it sounds entirely unnatural, especially in a forum environment.

     

    2.) Low blows. As you can see from the response of drosstogold (among others), insulting your customers and competitors will get you nowhere. That loose cannon of a mouth you have is a serious liability to you and all those involved with your business.

     

    3.) Poor grammar. As Gwydion mentioned, regardless of your age you seem like a whiny teenager that can't tell his little finger from his ass right now.

     

    4.) Dishonesty. Your foot is so full of holes I don't know how you can stand. I could cite each lie, but I don't have 20 minutes to spare rounding them all up.

     

    You also mentioned that you're not a distiller. So you're not a distiller and you don't know the first thing about marketing a product or public relations.

     

    What exactly do you do, then?

     

     

    We both are on the verge of Capsizing financially. Although we need this company to work, we will not

     

    We have no venture capital just our own limited resources which are almost completely fucking milked and curdled into an infection of yogurt

     

    That's pretty revealing information. Are you sure your business partner would want you revealing something like that? This also would explain the particularly hard sell right off the bat. More understandable knowing your situation, but that still doesn't excuse even a fraction of the things you've said or done.

     

    You were extremely fortunate in hooking up with a respectable distiller to make your product, and the Tuthilltown team gets all of my props for any success the product enjoys.

     

    Agreed.

     

     

    You really need to get a grip before you find yourself without any supporters in the absinthe community.

     

    Too late...


  5. Absomphe, shoot me next time, will ya? Thx ;)

     

    Sorry, Ben I like you too much for that. :cheers:

     

    Oops, I left out the words "a text", didn't I?

     

    Probably because I don't text, Twitter, Facebook, :harhar:, You Tube, IPOD, IPHONE, or any of Ali G's New-fangled techomological wonders of the last decade...hell, if it weren't for Tish, I wouldn't even have had a 'puter, and I never would have had the opportunity to meet all these fine folks.

     

    Yes, now you all know on whom to place the blame. :heart: :devil:

     

    If Meadow of Love ever ceases production you have my permission to shoot me. ;)

     

    You know, your non-use of social networking and other technical stuff got me thinking, so I did a little clicking around on Google and lookie here:

     

    >>Best way to get in touch with someone.<<

     

    I am so trying this out...


  6. Eh, it's over? Dammit, I love getting push alerts indicating new opposing arguments. Absomphe, shoot me a text next time, will ya? Thx ;)

     

    In all seriousness, there's not much to say here that wouldn't open the door for another round of disagreements, but I'm glad it is now settled to the point that a conscious effort is being made by both parties to compromise and improve. Both Brian/Gwydion and Peridot had completely valid concerns, and despite not seeing eye-to-eye it seems this discussion has shed some light on where members stand. That sort of insight is always valuable, so while this discussion meant a good deal of time was invested for all involved, I think we all have a better idea of how to proceed from here.

     

    If there's one thing I've gleaned from this thread personally, it's that even I have admittedly dropped the ball with Absinthe Review when the promised User Reviews did not materialize. While much of this was attributed to my technical ignorance, with the Mafia's permission to mimic their survey-based review submissions last month I have no excuse. Thank you peridot; although indirectly, you have given me enough of a nudge to wake up and see that if anyone has been neglecting the significance of user input, it's probably been me. :3869-sadbanana:

     

    And for many users at all the various forums that may have read this thread, I think it will give them encouragement to take their reviews more seriously knowing the volume of potential imbibers it may influence. I'm sure most of us are already aware of the thousands of non-registered visitors that frequent the major absinthe sites each month, but sometimes hearing it again is a welcome reminder of what an impact even a single review or forum post can have.

     

    You know what? With all this meaningful reflection and whatnot I'd say we're winners all around. :)

     

     

     

     

    I assure you, being an old fuck ain't no joke to us, whippersnapper!...except for Brian, Peridot, Buddhasynth, Ben, and Boggy who don't actually qualify as old fucks. :laugh: :cheers:

     

     

    Maybe just fucks! :devil:

     

    Dunno about the rest of 'em, but I'll take the title of being a fuck. Cheers to all, and happy new year, fellow fucks. :wave2:


  7. I had thoughts of posting this as well. One thing I saw as a plus was that they had absolutely no mention of the 'hallucinogenic' properties. All they said was that it was legendary for being high proof.

     

    Problem is, in Prague, for the most part that's the way they drink it. It was marketed that way by the crappy immitation brands based in that area, and that's how it's gained a foothold. Since the product itself tastes like crap, the only way they could get people to drink it is it invent an exciting way to get it down their gullets.

     

    Very true (and very unfortunate). However, things are changing one bar at a time, with a new landmark reached at Hemingway bar in Prague thanks to Habu and his hard-workin' Mafia crew :thumbup: :

     

    http://realabsinthe.blogspot.com/2009/12/a...ate-2009-7.html


  8. Good question. The burnt smell really floods the room when a sugar cube is flamed, so I'm sure it's not good to inhale all that. I hope after they filmed that they opened a window. ;)

     

    It did look very nasty, didn't it? Repulsive, in fact. That said, the video has certainly done its job. I'd like to second heavyharpoon's thumbs up. As I stated earlier, this transition is a very slow process, so we discussed what could be done in the meantime, and this was decided on as the next step. Mike did not mention how soon they would film the new preparation videos, but I'm glad to hear they are now online. So far, he has followed through on his word 100%, and I trust he will be willing to sit down soon and look over what else could be reasonably accomplished going into 2010.


  9. Free Shipping!

     

    As a bonus, we are offering free shipping worldwide on all orders with a value of over GBP 100, offer ends December 31st. Please remember that the last recommended date for delivery before December 25th is December 18th.

     

    Why even offer it that long? Everything is gonna be sold out in an hour. ;)

     

    Seriously though, if here was ever a time to order, it now! I'd like to go on about some other things, but shit, I gotta finish Checkout...


  10. I was only sent a 100 ml sample when I tasted it recently (wanted to dump it out), but if you folks can hold out for a few weeks (still recovering from my hefty sake order) I'll be making another order with a full bottle for review, so I can send out some samples. The alternative is it sitting on the shelf for years taking up space, so you people had better want some. ;)


  11. I'm sending PMs totally free of charge* if anyone is feeling left out....

     

     

     

     

    So far, I really like your PMs, Ben.

     

     

    Wait, you have PMs?

     

    Midol.

     

     

     

     

     

     

    *Limit one complimentary PM per household, per lifetime. Any request of a second PM will result in your credit card being charged immediately, with a recurring charge of $27.95 per month, or $1.95 per PM. Please include your bank account and routing number in your initial reply. Failure to do so will result in severe consequences including, but not limited to, extortion, "special" meetings in the dark alley on your way home from work, and/or being forced to drink a gallon of LTV in one sitting.

     

    Hope those Midol did the trick. By the way, if you see anything a bit odd on your credit card statement the next month or three, no need to be alarmed and do something rash like, you know, contact Visa... :pirate:

     

    Well said, Antoine. Good luck with it! :cheers:

     

    Seconded, it's great that everything has been worked out! :cheers:


  12. I'm sending PMs totally free of charge* if anyone is feeling left out....

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    *Limit one complimentary PM per household, per lifetime. Any request of a second PM will result in your credit card being charged immediately, with a recurring charge of $27.95 per month, or $1.95 per PM. Please include your bank account and routing number in your initial reply. Failure to do so will result in severe consequences including, but not limited to, extortion, "special" meetings in the dark alley on your way home from work, and/or being forced to drink a gallon of LTV in one sitting.


  13. I think the name is fun, and don't see people getting hung up over it Antoine. :) The price is a little more than expected as Peridot said, but I think with the current exchange rate and given the great convenience of this service, it will still be a hit. 30 brands (most of which don't have sample bottle sizes available) available from the get-go is enough that just about anyone can find something they haven't tried yet.

     

    Also, as I mentioned to you last week, I think it is a good mix of popular and less-stocked brands. Taking the time to go through and select only GENUINE absinthe shows your focus on quality, and that's something I'm willing to put my support behind.


  14. I remember once Abby, from the Lounge, posted a photo of a large plastic garbage can (full size, like a yard-waste bin) filled with old absinthe bottles. I thought it was an impressive collection. Then I found out it was just her current garbage can, and that she never saved her old bottles. That was when I realized that I would always be a newbie...

     

    Likewise, I suddenly feel like a lightweight! ;)

     

    And what MAM said. I'd love to keep them, but I just don't have the damn room for the suckers. I tried collecting my more memorable empties for sake, too, but same issue. Anyone have a display case I can..."borrow" for a bit?

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