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  1. I don't think the recession will have a substantial impact. As I recall, brands were running out of product back in 2008 when things were worse. When / if things recover, they'll be in a great position to expand.
  2. I had some 2005 Clandestine Recette Marianne the other night. Truly amazing, one of my best glasses of absinthe to date, much better than the glass I had in 2005!
  3. Wine alcohol Clandestine is amazing, I definitely wish more brands used wine base
  4. Haha, well it is good to hear that many of you have finally joined my camp on this issue. "Absinthe has secondary effects." "I'm an alcoholic I don't feel anything, are you sure?" "It won't knock you off your seat. It is subtle. I've proven it to myself." "I don't care, I only drink absinthe because it is a meadow in a glass, who cares if you're right." Well, alas, people are finally willing to admit it, now that we don't have to worry about it becoming legal. For the record, I don't drink absinthe for the 'effects,' they are way too small to justify the purchase of a bottle. I drink it for the craftsmanship and flavor. --- Now that we got that out of our system, anyone have a theory on why a verte or blanche may result in different effects? Is it something about the process? Or simply different herbal content between brands? That is after all, what the original poster was inquiring about!
  5. Most here will not admit that absinthe has secondary effects. Good luck getting a real answer. FYI, I've noticed more secondary effects from blanches as well. Not sure what the reason is.
  6. what bars do you recommend in LA?
  7. That'd only last a week in my home!
  8. I want pre-ban, every last remaining drop in the world!
  9. Hi-time is SO CAL's premier absinthe destination
  10. TB.....good man... good father.......... But really, his accomplishments are quite admirable
  11. I'm sure someone here has tried using club soda.... how is it?
  12. $50 a liter sounds good Anyone know the profit margin on the jades?
  13. The difference is astounding... I guess our children will know the truth after all our bottles age for 100 years
  14. Zzz

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  15. 1. 1901 2. Clandestine wine base 3. Montmartre (second edition)
  16. wow, im climbing up to my attic when i get home
  17. thats a great order, my favorite from the clandestine family is the wine alcohol base
  18. Absinthe's unique secondary effects come after an interaction with the chemical content of the drink with your brain. The interaction will depend on the 5 factors listed: 1. Specific chemical content of drink 2. Rate of consumption 3. Amount consumed vs user's alcohol tolerance 4. Tolerance gained to the chemicals themselves 5. Genetic components of user. ie. receptor quantity / properties, etc, natural resistance etc So to answer your question, I postulate that if say, Ted were to produce a more potent version of NO (meaning this new version contains more of these chemicals), it is fair to assume secondary effects will be easier to experience, while sacrificing the spirit's drinkability. It might also be said that a user could have a "stronger" experience. However, this lies on the assumption that our brain chemistry will allow more of an ingredient to have more of an effect. Our brain's have a limited number of receptors, and many pathways have maximum and minimum thresholds. More of a chemical might not produce a stronger effect. Then you can argue that one product will provide you with enough chemicals to "max" out, while another product provides you with a low dose. In absinthe's case, AND wormwood's case, I've come to believe there is a cap. Or, in other words, a certain state a person can reach given the proper chemical content. If you are given an excess level of chemical content no heightened effects are felt. Basically there is a limit to how strong the "absinthe buzz" can be. Also at work in absinthe, we have the alcohol. Hence, secondary effects will rely on how they chemicals effect the brain with alcohol. Hence, effects might be altered via amount of alcohol consumed. There could be some "perfect balance" at work here, making some brands more "potent" than others. It seems simple enough to test the theory, if someone really wanted to. Maybe someone out there already has. There are a number of tests / experiments a producer could do with their distillate. ... I don't think I've said anything new here. We know absinthes have a specific herbal concentration. More work has to be done to understand how absinthe's contents interact with the mind before rash conclusions can be made, such as "its all in your mind" or "you can get the same effect from herbal tea." I think what really pisses people off is that there isn't enough science to back up either side. I can only offer conclusions based on personal experiences and at-home experiments. Is it too hard to believe that injestion of a concentrated dose of chemicals found in absinthe, without alcohol, would lead to a "clear minded," "wide awake," buzz???? Well, I gave it a shot, and what do you know.
  19. I do argue that the wormwood is responsible for a portion of the secondary effects. However, I do not agree, nor did I reason that thujone loaded drinks will lead to stronger effects. While I'd like to see a study of exactly what is going on, I highly doubt we'll get it, as there doesn't seem to be anything profound to discover.
  20. Yes, the world is full of natural psychoactive chemicals, amazing point. The OP had nothing to do with orange peels. I'd rather answer the post with an opinion that will actually help the poster rather than scough and provide absolutely no new insight. Question was about the absinthe buzz. Not about getting high. Heaven forbid I drink the stuff because I love the taste, complexity and how it makes me feel. When there is clearly something in action, ignorance does not create a solution. I never said absinthe was a drug. I answered the OP stating that YES that a unique absinthe buzz does exist and YES certain brands can be more efficient in delivering this buzz. I am saying enough psychoactive chemicals are making it into the distillate or final product to produce a noticeable unique effect. You'll need more than 'orange peels' to say such a statement is incorrect or misleading, it's the TRUTH. Yeah so I was a bio major in college, smoked the stuff just for kicks, just to see. It isn't abnormal for college students to experiment. God damn that Zzzfilesk1, trying to make absinthe a drug! You're damn right I was in pursuit of kicks. Hell, I would have never bothered ordering the stuff from Europe if the drink had no mystique to it. Just turns out, even though the stories were bull, the drink turned out to be beautiful. I mean how many years have we been answering this same question and having this same argument. Yes the effects are minimal, who cares, no reason to avoid the question or lie to the guy. Five ways you'll get different reports with absinthe's effects: 1. Specific chemical content of drink 2. Rate of consumption 3. Amount consumed vs user's alcohol tolerance 4. Tolerance gained to the chemicals themselves 5. Genetic components of user. ie. receptor quantity / properties, etc, natural resistance etc
  21. Yes, some brands provide a stronger "absinthe buzz" than others. Generally, I've found the less sweet, and more herbal, often bitter, brands are more potent... Luckily for me, I prefer a bitter kick to my absinthe. Many will tell you it is all in your mind. While absinthe is clearly not the drug the public believes it to be, it does contain herbs with light psychoactive effects, that all combine for your "absinthe buzz." Absinthe provides a distinct alcoholic feeling, that separates it from other spirits, often described as a "clear-headed," or lucid. Just as others have said, most spirits have their own unique effects, though I believe absinthe's is much more noticeable. Stick with high-quality commercials. Drinkability is key if you want to get through enough of the stuff. I've gone as far as to produce and smoke my own wormwood hash, to test all this out. The experience of which, has me convinced of wormwood's importance in the "absinthe buzz." Though I have never bothered trying "high-thujone," marketed products to achieve a high, as I'm content with what I get from great tasting high-quality absinthes. This all being said, I only get noticeable "absinthe" effects after 4-5 glasses...
  22. I like where this is going, good ideas. I'm torn between whether a large single event with 50 would be better or worse than several events with 10-15 people. The same 10-15 may develop some sort of bias on taste as they share what they feel is good/bad after events. Smaller number of people also risks a more narrow overall palate. However, keeping the same 10-15 around would also provide some consistency to the experiment, and give us a point of reference. Personally, I think that I would trust the smaller meetings several times a year, because I don't trust anything "random" in such small groups.
  23. If each "judge" were given a bottle of each brand, unmarked of course, and given 1 month to report ratings, can you say your results would be the same? I stand by the idea that it takes several sips, if not a full glass, to get a proper read on the difference in mouth-feel and "overall finish," especially when trying to compare quality absinthes. So, the 5 per day idea mentioned above is decent. I mean, by the time the last brand comes in a massive tasting, everyone's palate is shot, whether they're willing to admit it or not. Also, rating on a sip does not really tempt me, nor should it tempt anyone, to buy a bottle of anything. I would trust reviews and ratings that reflect an experience similar to the one I will have. What worries me is that there are many new absinthe drinkers that would see a post like this and say, "Score!" I think something like this is fun for the guests, and probably creates a neat experience. The results should be treated as "fun facts," or "food for thought." You get the idea!
  24. Well, one of the key qualities I look for in quality absinthe is the mouth-feel, which I feel develops through several sips. But you're right about one thing, I would not fare well in a tasting, for any type of alcohol....I can't have just a sip...