Absinthe: The American Remix, New York Times, April 29, 2007 (the Lucid™ thread) |
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Absinthe: The American Remix, New York Times, April 29, 2007 (the Lucid™ thread) |
 Apr 29 2007, 07:21 AM
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 Bo-nana Fana Fo-Frooks  Group: Absinthiste Posts: 2,436 Joined: 1-August 05 From: NYC by way of NOLA Member No.: 143  |
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Apr 29 2007, 07:32 AM
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 Proprietaire Group: Root Admin Posts: 9,589 Joined: 18-September 04 From: Seattle Member No.: 1 |
Damn! Beat me by mere minutes. I was just coming in to post this.
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Apr 29 2007, 07:33 AM
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 Peanut Gallery owner Group: Absintheur Posts: 1,344 Joined: 13-April 06 From: Icebox of the Nation Member No.: 629 |
I'm praying for samples in July!
-------------------- - cogito ergo louche
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Apr 29 2007, 07:43 AM
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 Floccinaucinihilipilificator Extraordinaire  Group: Silver Member Posts: 4,488 Joined: 20-August 06 From: Birmingham, Alabama Member No.: 775 |
I'd like to give it a try.
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Apr 29 2007, 07:50 AM
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 Advanced Member Group: Absinthiste Posts: 931 Joined: 21-January 07 From: Port Townsend, Washington Member No.: 1,192 |
 Interesting!
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Apr 29 2007, 07:51 AM
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 Member Group: Absintheur Posts: 476 Joined: 11-November 06 From: Pacific Northwest Member No.: 1,010 |
I guess $60 isn't bad if it's good. I'm not crazy about the bottle.
-------------------- "The decline of the aperitif may well be one of the most depressing phenomena of our time." -- Luis Bunuel
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Apr 29 2007, 07:53 AM
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 Mon nom est T73 Group: Advisory Board Posts: 11,615 Joined: 3-January 06 From: Montana Member No.: 371 |
Well. How 'bout that!
Color me curious...green. -------------------- "There is a direct correlation between the level of happiness in one's life and the amount of silliness they allow into it!" ~ I know, I have done studies.
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Apr 29 2007, 07:57 AM
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Floccinaucinihilipilificator Extraordinaire Group: Silver Member Posts: 4,488 Joined: 20-August 06 From: Birmingham, Alabama Member No.: 775 |
QUOTE (ubu @ Apr 29 2007, 10:51 AM)  I'm not crazy about the bottle. I agree. I think the bottle's ridiculous. But maybe it has something good inside. Wouldn't be the first time that's happened. -------------------- Throng of Shoggoths: Brutal, Psychedelic Doom-Metal
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Apr 29 2007, 08:06 AM
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 The Great Lover of Mankind Group: Absintheur Posts: 2,097 Joined: 3-February 06 From: Brooklyn, NY Member No.: 460 |
I'd be curious to give it a try. It's an interesting way to approach legalization. It seems like kind of a "better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission" approach.
-------------------- Ah, la petite mort; such beautiful suicide.
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Apr 29 2007, 08:07 AM
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Proprietaire Group: Root Admin Posts: 9,589 Joined: 18-September 04 From: Seattle Member No.: 1 |
The bottle was predictable. Maybe not to our traditionalist sensibilities, but with absinthe in the market in the US, we might as well get used to it.
One question I have is about the coloring: properly made absinthe doesn't have a lot of thujone in it anyway, and with t-free Grand Wormwood available one can produce a t-free absinthe. But A. pontica, the Petite Wormwood used in post-distillation coloration, has thujone in it as well. -------------------- New here? READ THIS FIRST. Before you ask any questions, also please read the answers to Frequently Asked Questions and use the search function on the forums and the main site; then introduce yourself in Newcomer's Introductions. If you enjoy the Wormwood Society site and forums and feel they are a worthy cause, please consider a purchasing a subscription.
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Apr 29 2007, 09:00 AM
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 Professeur d’Absinthe Group: Absinthiste Posts: 334 Joined: 9-January 06 Member No.: 393 |
The most likey scenario is that pontica for coloring would be left out of the USA version.
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Apr 29 2007, 09:10 AM
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Peanut Gallery owner Group: Absintheur Posts: 1,344 Joined: 13-April 06 From: Icebox of the Nation Member No.: 629 |
I wonder what that does for the flavor? It does say on their web site that they were going for a less anise-y taste, also for american sensibilities. I wonder what that'll be like, or how far they took that concept. FWIW I like the edginess of the bottle, and the cat's eyes. Not traditional, I admit, but I like it nonetheless.
-------------------- - cogito ergo louche
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Apr 29 2007, 09:13 AM
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Bo-nana Fana Fo-Frooks Group: Absinthiste Posts: 2,436 Joined: 1-August 05 From: NYC by way of NOLA Member No.: 143 |
QUOTE (ubu @ Apr 29 2007, 11:51 AM) I'm not crazy about the bottle. How can you say that? Nothing says "Taboo!" like cat eyes in the dark: 
Cat_Eyes.jpg ( 1.27K )
Number of downloads: 33And nothing says "But it's all in good fun!" like a Hallmark-card Green Fairy:
Cutesy_Fairy.jpg ( 11.76K )
Number of downloads: 33...Subtle....classy....that's the American Way! . |
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Apr 29 2007, 09:14 AM
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 Nobodaddy's sweetheart Group: Absintheur Posts: 1,208 Joined: 21-March 06 From: 40° 48′ 35.53″ N, 96° 40′ 31.24″ W Member No.: 582 |
If it displaces Absente, more power to Viridian!
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Apr 29 2007, 09:31 AM
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Proprietaire Group: Root Admin Posts: 9,589 Joined: 18-September 04 From: Seattle Member No.: 1 |
More importantly, it opens the door for quality, authentic absinthe.
We've become used to saying that "absinthe is illegal" but it wasn't really true. Thujone is illegal. The improbability that the TTB would approve a drink labeled as absinthe was another matter entirely. -------------------- New here? READ THIS FIRST. Before you ask any questions, also please read the answers to Frequently Asked Questions and use the search function on the forums and the main site; then introduce yourself in Newcomer's Introductions. If you enjoy the Wormwood Society site and forums and feel they are a worthy cause, please consider a purchasing a subscription.
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Apr 29 2007, 09:35 AM
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Peanut Gallery owner Group: Absintheur Posts: 1,344 Joined: 13-April 06 From: Icebox of the Nation Member No.: 629 |
QUOTE (ubu @ Apr 29 2007, 08:51 AM) I guess $60 isn't bad if it's good. Um, yes. -------------------- - cogito ergo louche
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Apr 29 2007, 09:35 AM
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 Absinthe Geek Group: Absintheur Posts: 2,267 Joined: 29-July 05 From: Oregon Member No.: 142 |
Yes, I am eager to try a bottle. As stated above by some, I too find the design of the bottle displeasing. It reminds me of those Czechsinth bottles that want you to buy into the 'hype'.
-------------------- "Reality is a crutch for people who can't enjoy absinthe."
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Apr 29 2007, 09:39 AM
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Floccinaucinihilipilificator Extraordinaire Group: Silver Member Posts: 4,488 Joined: 20-August 06 From: Birmingham, Alabama Member No.: 775 |
Is it considered importing if the company is making it in France and then bringing it here to sell? Because customs doesn't allow importing any liquor with artemisia absinthium.
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Apr 29 2007, 09:50 AM
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Peanut Gallery owner Group: Absintheur Posts: 1,344 Joined: 13-April 06 From: Icebox of the Nation Member No.: 629 |
Buzz kill...
I suppose you have a point though. Let's hope nobody notices. -------------------- - cogito ergo louche
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Apr 29 2007, 09:54 AM
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Floccinaucinihilipilificator Extraordinaire Group: Silver Member Posts: 4,488 Joined: 20-August 06 From: Birmingham, Alabama Member No.: 775 |
*shrug*
FDA allows it to be produced here if it is without thujone. I just wonder how this works distilling it at Combier. -------------------- Throng of Shoggoths: Brutal, Psychedelic Doom-Metal
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Apr 29 2007, 10:02 AM
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 Very silly. Very silly indeed. Group: Absinthiste Posts: 1,621 Joined: 29-July 06 From: Southern Belle Member No.: 736 |
Ted will probably have a sample of it at Tales of the Cocktail. I plan on sampling Perique there as well, before I open my meager wallet.
-------------------- When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
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Apr 29 2007, 10:05 AM
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Incomplete Absinthe Geek Group: Indefinite Suspension Posts: 3,850 Joined: 24-March 06 Member No.: 591 |
I hope some samples show in Boveresse.
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Apr 29 2007, 10:20 AM
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Peanut Gallery owner Group: Absintheur Posts: 1,344 Joined: 13-April 06 From: Icebox of the Nation Member No.: 629 |
Boy howdy I hope so!
-------------------- - cogito ergo louche
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Apr 29 2007, 10:40 AM
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 a.k.a. Shabba Group: Advisory Board Posts: 8,982 Joined: 18-June 06 From: South Riding, VA Member No.: 669 |
Definitely looking forward to trying it.
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Apr 29 2007, 10:46 AM
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 Member Group: Absinthiste Posts: 359 Joined: 14-January 07 From: Port Townsend, Washington Member No.: 1,176 |
The labeling looks like it will fit beautifully on the Alandia website.
Hey, how does someone know what the American pallet likes? There must be LOTS of them. But I agree about the foot in the door thing. It's a step."Baby steps, baby steps". All this typing is dry work. -------------------- "I don't think very much....therefore, I might not be"
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Apr 29 2007, 11:08 AM
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 Exigez le mot Turkey Group: Absintheur Posts: 2,014 Joined: 16-October 05 From: San Francisco Member No.: 209 |
QUOTE (Pan Buh @ Apr 29 2007, 11:05 AM) I hope some samples show in Boveresse. Does that mean I'll meet you there? That would be great! Who else is going? -------------------- "I'm always amused when a member incorporates a quote from another member into their signature." - fpb
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Apr 29 2007, 11:12 AM
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Proprietaire Group: Root Admin Posts: 9,589 Joined: 18-September 04 From: Seattle Member No.: 1 |
Well, in general, folks here don't like "black licorice". I think their palates just need to be re-educated. Too much star anise oil is used in candy, and it builds an association, so when someone encounters a similar flavor, it triggers the response. Once they get past the initial anethol reaction and taste how complex absinthe can be, not to mention that green anise tastes better, a lot of licorice haters wind up liking absinthe.
QUOTE (peridot @ Apr 29 2007, 10:39 AM) Is it considered importing if the company is making it in France and then bringing it here to sell? Because customs doesn't allow importing any liquor with artemisia absinthium. Yep. That's the definition of importing, but customs doesn't make the laws, it only enforces those set by other agencies. Those customs guidelines were written with the (as it turns out, mistaken) assumption that anything with Aa in it would violate the FDA's no-thujone rule, as would anything with the word "Absinthe" on the label. The FDA specifically permits Artemisia species as long as there's no thujone detected by the method they prescribe; there is no statute specifically prohibiting Aa that I have found. But feel free to look for yourself: USC CFR FDA TTB. Remember, we're looking for an actual statute, not a few paragraphs in a guideline.
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Apr 29 2007, 11:44 AM
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Very silly. Very silly indeed. Group: Absinthiste Posts: 1,621 Joined: 29-July 06 From: Southern Belle Member No.: 736 |
QUOTE (Wild Bill Turkey @ Apr 29 2007, 11:08 AM) QUOTE (Pan Buh @ Apr 29 2007, 11:05 AM) I hope some samples show in Boveresse. Does that mean I'll meet you there? That would be great! Who else is going? All you people that can AFFORD Boveresse tick me off.  Fie! A pox on you!
-------------------- When I die, I want to go peacefully like my Grandfather did, in his sleep -- not screaming, like the passengers in his car.
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Apr 29 2007, 11:52 AM
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Peanut Gallery owner Group: Absintheur Posts: 1,344 Joined: 13-April 06 From: Icebox of the Nation Member No.: 629 |
We'll just have to have a really, really good time in NOLA to show 'em how its done, huh?
-------------------- - cogito ergo louche
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Apr 29 2007, 12:14 PM
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 Member Group: Absintheur Posts: 161 Joined: 8-March 07 From: NEW YORK Member No.: 1,264 |
Certainly sounds interesting and $60 with out shipping not bad. As for as the label goes. Will the eyes on the bottle follow you like the eyes on the website?
O.k.  to all
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