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  2. Hedonmonkey

    What ya drinking tonight?

    That sounds like a great time. Cheers, all.
  3. Cajun Magic

    What ya drinking tonight?

    I'm at Great Raft Brewing in Shreveport today for the 5th Year Anniversary Ramble. So I'm drinking a little bit of everything of the beer variety.
  4. That would make your two dashes about 1/30 of an ounce, slightly less than what I estimated. And that's what I figured you were doing... adding the absinthe to the liquid ingredients. You certainly can't rinse with that little absinthe. I don't agree completely. The way I see it is that the rinse does limit the amount used, but moreover it provides increased surface area, north of the wash line of the main body of the drink, to amplify the aromatic accent, without making that ingredient part of the main body of the drink. It does its work more on the nose than the palate. And I couldn't agree more. If you read my manifesto in the thread "Sazerac - perfected!", you'll see I list "leaving too much absinthe in the glass" as the number one pitfall in making this drink. The whole idea of "to taste" is what's wrong with this approach. You shouldn't be primarily tasting it. You should be smelling it. I'm assuming that what you are implying is that most bartenders want to use more than 1/4 ounce each. I wouldn't be in favor of that. I've been making the Mephisto for years now. If you don't believe me, search my posts. I love the drink. I remember when you first listed it, you had it at 1 barspoon each of simple syrup, smoky Scotch, and absinthe. That's how I always made it, and I've rocked a lot of peeps with it that way. I remember taking notice when your spec changed to 1/4 ounce each. I have never made it that way, but have a hard time imagining any subtlety at that level. I've always seen that drink as a slightly modified Perfect Martini, and the accents should be exactly that... accents. Of course it's your drink. Maybe I should take that for a spin. Is Murray working these days? I know he was having some health problems a while back.
  5. Dashers come in different sizes. Some have really tiny apertures, some larger. Mine gives me around 1/10 tsp per dash. You don't use the two-dashes to rinse, you just add it along with the rest of the ingredients. I think you may be over-thinking it. The rinse idea is basically to keep one from using too much of the ingredient; it all gets blended in when you strain in the rest anyway. If you're serving guests, it may be more showy, but entirely superfluous. The important thing is using the proper amount, and I've had far too many Sazeracs that have been ruined by the bartender insisting on adding "enough absinthe to taste"; most of them, in fact. I devised a cocktail called the Mephisto that specifies 1/4 oz each of absinthe and Islay Scotch. I've yet to have any bartender besides Murray Stenson make it correctly because they insist that "you can't taste the absinthe or Scotch".
  6. Grim

    Greetings my fellow absintheurs

    Welcome back! I enjoyed your reintroduction.
  7. "You know there ain't no Devil, that's just God when he's drunk"........Tom Waits  

  8. greytail

    What ya drinking tonight?

    Some midnight sun Arctic Devil I squirreled away last Auntumn.
  9. Yeah, I know... another zombini thread. Sorry, I've just been obsessed with this drink again lately. And this whole rinse of absinthe thing seems to cause so much angst for a good many people. Listen... I don't want to be wasteful either. However, I also want to get to drinking my Saz or getting it in front of the drinker in this lifetime. In my experience, to do a good efficient rinse requires a certain amount of absinthe. Too little, and it takes a long time to completely coat the inside of the glass. You have to rotate slowly and many more times than you will if you use more. However, too much, and you're unnecessarily throwing a lot away. That's why when I tutor people on this drink I always spec about a teaspoon (I don't measure it) of absinthe. If you want to get all technical, each different glass will require a different amount. But a teaspoon will cover a single rocks glass with a final loss of maybe 50% of the teaspoon, and a double rocks glass with a loss of no more than 33%. With practice (and practice at this drink doesn't suck), you'll get to know the glasses you are commonly working with. I'm always aiming for the least I can use and get it done in 3 or 4 rotations. And I gotta' tell you, nothing is sexier than watching a good bartender pour just the right amount of absinthe, coat the glass in 3 or 4 spins, and end up pouring out a minimal amount. That's the craft. And for you frugal types out there, at average retail, a teaspoon of absinthe is about $.50. A teaspoon is 1/6 of an ounce. You could rinse real fast with 3cl (1 ounce), but that is serious overkill. If I were using that much, I'd be concerned with recovery of the excess, as well. At typical retails an ounce of absinthe is about $2.40 to $3.00. If you don't recover the excess you just doubled the cost of your drink, if you're using a fairly ordinary rye. Two dashes, in my opinion, would be very difficult to rinse with. Two dashes is about 1/24 of an ounce. If you're talking just dashing it into the drink, I've seen it done and have done it myself, but you get nowhere near the aromatic pizzazz you get with a complete rinse on a glass. I never used the atomizer, but have seen it done with varying degrees of success. What I haven't liked is when some bartender is sloppy with it, misses the interior of the glass, and you end up with a lot of absinthe smell in the environment, affecting the perception of all the drinks in that environment. Class dismissed.
  10. PapaScout

    What ya drinking tonight?

    Unibroue's Terrible Belgian Quad. Can Canadian Belgian's be better than Belgium's Belgian's? I love this beer. Thank you Jerry Vietz for all you do to make the world a better place.
  11. Harry

    Searching for a Replica Spoon Holder

    ...still searching...
  12. Absomphe

    Greetings my fellow absintheurs

    Greetings!
  13. TheLoucheyMonster!

    Greetings my fellow absintheurs

    Hi and welcome!
  14. fingerpickinblue

    Greetings my fellow absintheurs

    Welcome to the WS.
  15. Cajun Magic

    Hello again friends

    Welcome back!
  16. Cajun Magic

    Greetings my fellow absintheurs

    Welcome and cheers! Nice username by the way, I'm a big Clive Barker fan.
  17. Hedonmonkey

    What ya drinking tonight?

    Some great afternoon coffee. Cheers.
  18. fingerpickinblue

    Is FeeVerte Died?

    Well thanx for the link. I'm going to look at it over the next few days and see what I think. It's not like I have any power here, but I think some rejuvenation wouldn't hurt. I, personally, don't take your comments to be rude or disparaging. You sound like you care about this drink and just want a resource that offers some reliable guidance. I will say, however, that "just allowing anyone to come in and say something" probably is only just a little more safe with rum than with absinthe, and only because there are so many more people with a reasonably well formed idea of what proper rum is. The trouble with absinthe is, that with no baseline from which to start, so many consumer's expectations and opinions are easily manipulated. You throw up a review site with no guidance and I'm betting you have another absinthe site full of dreck and nonsense before you know it. And it will only be because the users don't know any better, or have a dialog or agenda they prefer to stick with. And I gotta' tell you, the points you touched on regarding the status of general absinthe knowledge out there is a real concern. Lately, I've been poking around the Internet to see what the substance and tone of articles about absinthe, written in the last three or so years, is like. I just got done doing that again for a couple hours. In my opinion, it's not much better than it was ten years ago. Many times, even when the article purports to be setting matters straight, or dispelling myths, they still backhandedly inject all the sensational misinformation in such a way that it is obviously the hook for a certain reader. One I just read, clearly stated that fire has no place in proper preparation, but the lead graphic is of a glass of absinthe with a burning spoon of sugar on top. To bring this back to topic, it pains me to think we may have lost one of the best sources of accurate absinthe information that has ever been out there.
  19. MisterX

    Is FeeVerte Died?

    i'm not trying to rudely make unfair comparisons here. i'm fully aware that running a site like this can be thankless, as well as the review section, and it's been in place for over 10yrs now. if it's not worth the trouble then i get why it's kind of being let go (seems like). so i'm not really sure why i should go into this, but when i say format i'm mainly talking about the fact that the review section here is maybe a little outdated/clunky and feels like an add on section to a 10+yr old forum. which is exactly what it is. but again, i'm thankful it's been around as long as it has and wish it would come back even as it was. but here's one random example. actually it's not random, it's the first thing that comes up if you type 'rum reviews' into google (for me anyway). https://www.rumratings.com/brands so when i'm comparing format i'm saying, first off, and again this is imo, it looks about 10x nicer. but it's using a more modern, probably a wordpress theme or whatever. WS is over 10yrs old, and looks it. rumratings is about 5yrs old, and looks it. the review section here really feels like an add on to a forum/info site. rumratings looks like a nice modern website dedicated solely to allowing anyone to review rum. but maybe you're right and making it easier for just anyone to come in and say something about a brand wouldn't be good for absinthe. for me, if i'm looking to try a new rum, i go to a site like that and i want to see what run of the mill rum drinkers think. but there's a lot more of them posting (300 plus for diplomatico reserva). i feel like if i go there and something gets an 8, it's probably good (maybe i still won't like it personally)- and not because experts told me so. probably (almost surely) we're not quite to the point or even close where that would work with absinthe yet, if we ever will be. most people still seem to think the real absinthe is a hallucinogen. and again i want to stress i'm not trying to disparage this site. but i even had trouble getting the account set up so i could leave any reviews. it felt clunky, and imo doesn't look as nice and i even thought it was kind of a nuisance that i couldn't just use my forum user/pass to post reviews there. but none of that really matters now... basically i wish there were a site like rumratings.com for absinthe but absinthe would actually have to be popular for it to work out. but i would actually be perfectly happy just seeing the review section here go back up, also.
  20. fingerpickinblue

    Tradition vs New ways

    I know this thread is ultra-zombie but I ran across it this morning. I think the problem with folks as we have here, with such an elevated interest in the subject, is that the desire is to define absinthe in such a way as to prohibit low quality examples. That doesn't square with how the TTB seems to treat these things. Their habit seems to be to define minimum characteristics, and many times in terms that are not so exact as to be measurable. Types of whisk(e)y are one of the few that are more specifically defined. Many others are far more general. Some examples: Gin; "Spirits with a main characteristic flavor derived from juniper berries produced by distillation or mixing of spirits with juniper berries and other aromatics or extracts derived from these materials and bottled at not less than 40% alcohol by volume (80 proof)" Brandy: "Spirits distilled from the fermented juice, mash or wine of fruit or from its residue at less than 95% alcohol by volume (190 proof) having the taste, aroma and characteristics generally attributed to brandy and bottled at not less than 40% alcohol by volume (80 proof)" Rum: "Spirits distilled from the fermented juice of sugar cane, sugar cane syrup, sugar cane molasses or other sugar cane by-products at less than 95% alcohol by volume (190 proof) having the taste, aroma and characteristics generally attributed to rum and bottled at not less than 40% alcohol by volume (80 proof)"
  21. fingerpickinblue

    Is FeeVerte Died?

    Can you give a couple examples of what that would look like? Links would be good. I'd just like to see what that format would be.
  22. fingerpickinblue

    Is FeeVerte Died?

    I think the thing that makes this site superior to not only other spirit review sites, but consumer review sites of just about any commodity, is the very clear and well defined tutorial on the front site. If one reads through it diligently, a review of high quality should be possible. Most review sites have no guidelines or standards whatsoever. They just turn the reviewer loose with a points system and they're on their own. Here, if done properly, the review is against a well defined standard of character and correctness. So the idea of people just floating in here to leave their thoughts, without doing their homework, scares me a little (and I realize that's not what you're suggesting). There's plenty of other places for that kind of review. Here, and at FV, have always been considered the gold standard review opinion (in English language) on absinthe exactly because we imposed standards. I've gotten to the point where I pay almost no attention to most general consumer reviews. The trouble is, since the advent of Yelp, Amazon, and all the other 5-star systems, coupled with the requisite qualifications of respiration and pulse, the world has been turned into a 1 or 5 shouting match.
  23. MisterX

    Is FeeVerte Died?

    yeah it's obviously a lot of work and i only started contributing to the reviews myself about a year ago so i'm guilty of sitting on the sidelines myself. it'd be great if we could have at least one nice website where people could float in (not just experts but even lots of less than expert imbibers) and leave their thoughts on this or that brand, similar to the plethora of such sites with rum/whiskey/gin/etc. but absinthe is far less popular. also not to be mean in any way, but the review section here is very outdated compared to a lot of those spirit review sites out there which are more attractive and easier to use. probably some of those sites have brands of absinthe up for review along with the whiskey/rum etc, i would imagine? but i doubt any are ever going to be as definitive of a resource as this place was. but eh, i guess i'm just rambling and this isn't going anywhere so i'll just end.
  24. fingerpickinblue

    Is FeeVerte Died?

    Kinda' like Gwydion saying "maintaining the circus" is a thankless job, reviewing is, as well, and is one of the reasons I stopped doing it a few years back. However recently I did revisit one review, but then was unable to get in to insert my edited text. The other reasons I stopped doing it were time (in my case, probably about 2 to 3 hours per review), and money. I know the arguments against asking producers for product, but I always wished we had a system of getting and splitting up two sample bottles and getting them out to six or eight trusted reviewers on a rotating basis. In every other area of beverage it is common for producers to spread review samples around. I used to be happy to be of help with this when I was getting to know absinthe, but at some point it begins to become a real pain to be spending money to help producers sell their stuff. Just wrap your head around Brian's reviews. Do the arithmetic on 150 -160 absinthes at an average of probably $75 a bottle.
  25. MisterX

    Is FeeVerte Died?

    i never posted here back in the heyday but i lurked from time to time and learned a little. the review section was especially helpful and because of that i never bought a fake absinthe. the reviews, the info section, and the forum were by far the best absinthe resource online. it'd be nice if the reviews could return but without participation i think it would eventually become obsolete. it's a shame. sites like this i think are necessary for us to get to a point where the misinfo about tripping out on absinthe finally mostly goes away. there's a lot of that crap still out there. but you did what you could or whatever, so thanks for that and thanks to you (everyone) i never had to taste any mouthwash.
  26. MASTERPC

    What ya drinking tonight?

    Mango margarita followed by a Pua Hana (kahlua, Bailey’s, grand margnier and a dash of coffee with cream on the top. Have to have my cream to finish things off. ;^>).
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